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Erusia Force
Post subject: Re: EFNS H-11 Type Heavy BBGMN DesignPosted: March 23rd, 2012, 5:35 am
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would anyone have an idea concerning the most effective bulbous bow shape? I'm sure my design is relatively sound and is comparable with a Yamato style. However I am aware that CVNs have a rather protrusive one.
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Post subject: Re: EFNS H-11 Type Heavy BBGMN DesignPosted: March 23rd, 2012, 6:14 am
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Whatever they use on the latest aircraft carriers.

Seriously.
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Post subject: Re: EFNS H-11 Type Heavy BBGMN DesignPosted: March 23rd, 2012, 4:02 pm
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acelanceloet wrote:
anyways, gonna tell you this: it has nothing to do with tracking, it is an search radar. tracking is done by directors or phased array radars or similar stuff. you can do tracking with SPY-1, but it is not designed to do so, and it does not operationally (as far as I know/remember)

if I see it correctly, SPY-1 does about exactly the same thing as that huge russian air search radar on top of your structure. and if it does not, there will be an huge russian air search radar that does!
Almost 100% incorrect. Impressive.

SPY-1 performs air search (and has evolved over the decades to be very good at this), but it was designed first and foremost as a tracking system.
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Post subject: Re: EFNS H-11 Type Heavy BBGMN DesignPosted: March 23rd, 2012, 4:18 pm
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I stand (very) corrected.... whoops! got it wrong all this time. and I even took tracking and illumination wrong when I posted that..... I should not make posts like that at night xD

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Post subject: Re: EFNS H-11 Type Heavy BBGMN DesignPosted: March 23rd, 2012, 5:18 pm
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I have taken everyones comments into account and have modified the hull structure.
Official length is 1217 feet overall with a beem of 142 feet.
Rudders have been enlarged to avoid the titanic effect.
CIWS revised.
Bilge Keel moved.
Turrets modified to properly accommodate 4 guns.
Bulbous bow extended and foremost anchor removed.
Superstructure is currently being reshaped.


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Post subject: Re: EFNS H-11 Type Heavy BBGMN DesignPosted: March 23rd, 2012, 5:22 pm
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you still have that extremely blocky midships section, according to the straight lines of your bilge keel ;)

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Post subject: Re: EFNS H-11 Type Heavy BBGMN DesignPosted: March 23rd, 2012, 6:30 pm
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I meant for it to be blocky, similar to older battleship designs. If I am correct it allows for easier construction of the armored plating sections.
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Post subject: Re: EFNS H-11 Type Heavy BBGMN DesignPosted: March 23rd, 2012, 6:37 pm
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I can understand that, but right now your midship section is like this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... _Nevis.jpg
doable, maybe easy to construct, but if that really was favourable for warship hulls......
also, you are not going to armour most of the hull under the waterline, so why would you make that blocky?

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Post subject: Re: EFNS H-11 Type Heavy BBGMN DesignPosted: March 23rd, 2012, 6:48 pm
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considering modern torpedoes and their impacts on the undersides of vessels with the under hull detonation, this shape is a candidate to combat possible structural damage sustained, especially with a vessel this large.
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Post subject: Re: EFNS H-11 Type Heavy BBGMN DesignPosted: March 23rd, 2012, 6:50 pm
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I understand what you are saying and will properly accommodate the bow and stern sections to not be so bulky via shading. However, for the protection of the reactors and the midships, dead midships will remain boxy-ish.
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