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Rhade
Post subject: Re: Dracan Commonwealth AUPosted: November 25th, 2011, 10:34 am
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I know I'm pain in the ass Night' but ... this is something I can't stop thinking about it. ;)

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Thats Iron Duke, model battleship of I WW. It has longer bow and stern ... the same as Queen Elizabeth, Revange and Canada.

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Post subject: Re: Dracan Commonwealth AUPosted: November 25th, 2011, 7:51 pm
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Now find the Delaware's version of that! lol

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Rhade
Post subject: Re: Dracan Commonwealth AUPosted: November 25th, 2011, 8:26 pm
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Smaller, poorer ... Dreadnought want-to-be ship. ;) But ok, it's your design. I'm just hard uncritical supporter of Brits' battleships design. ;)

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Post subject: Re: Dracan Commonwealth AUPosted: November 25th, 2011, 8:51 pm
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She works, buddy, she works. I do appreciate your concern.

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Post subject: Re: Dracan Commonwealth AUPosted: November 26th, 2011, 12:00 am
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She is still pretty good for her time. Four turrets that can train to either side is pretty advanced for 1914, giving it the same broadside as say, the Kaiser class. Although, now I can't help but wonder what is taking up all of the space inside the ship where the Q turret would be.

EDIT: It seems that I've mistaken the gun caliber. Give her a broadside a little less than the Iron Dukes.

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Post subject: Re: Dracan Commonwealth AUPosted: November 26th, 2011, 4:23 am
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So I thought a bit about Rhade's suggestion, and here is the final, and END ALL Endeavour, as well as her Adversary the IRS Iron Fist

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Post subject: Re: Dracan Commonwealth AUPosted: November 26th, 2011, 5:27 am
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Endeavour's Stats:

Endeavour, Dracan Commonwealth Battleship laid down 1911

Displacement:
15,761 t light; 19,517 t standard; 21,970 t normal; 23,933 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(599.50 ft / 593.50 ft) x 85.50 ft x (27.06 / 28.98 ft)
(182.73 m / 180.90 m) x 26.06 m x (8.25 / 8.83 m)

Armament:
8 - 14.00" / 356 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1,383.70lbs / 627.63kg shells, 500 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1912 Model
4 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
16 - 6.00" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 108.92lbs / 49.41kg shells, 240 per gun
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1912 Model
16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
6 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 45.0 cal guns - 13.62lbs / 6.18kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
2 x Single mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread
2 raised mounts
4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 45.0 cal guns - 13.62lbs / 6.18kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 12,948 lbs / 5,873 kg
Main Torpedoes
4 - 21.0" / 533 mm, 24.00 ft / 7.32 m torpedoes - 1.507 t each, 6.030 t total
submerged side tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 9.00" / 229 mm 372.13 ft / 113.43 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt inclined 2.00 degrees (positive = in)

- Hull void:
0.00" / 0 mm 0.00 ft / 0.00 m 0.00 ft / 0.00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 12.0" / 305 mm 5.00" / 127 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
2nd: 6.00" / 152 mm - 6.00" / 152 mm

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
Forecastle: 2.00" / 51 mm Quarter deck: 2.00" / 51 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 11.50" / 292 mm, Aft 11.50" / 292 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 46,962 shp / 35,034 Kw = 24.00 kts
Range 8,900nm at 14.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4,415 tons

Complement:
901 - 1,172

Cost:
£1.940 million / $7.760 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2,174 tons, 9.9 %
- Guns: 2,162 tons, 9.8 %
- Weapons: 12 tons, 0.1 %
Armour: 3,779 tons, 17.2 %
- Belts: 1,161 tons, 5.3 %
- Armament: 896 tons, 4.1 %
- Armour Deck: 1,333 tons, 6.1 %
- Conning Towers: 389 tons, 1.8 %
Machinery: 1,906 tons, 8.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 7,831 tons, 35.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6,209 tons, 28.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 70 tons, 0.3 %
- Hull below water: 10 tons
- Hull void weights: 20 tons
- Hull above water: 20 tons
- On freeboard deck: 10 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
24,669 lbs / 11,190 Kg = 18.0 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 2.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.24
Metacentric height 5.8 ft / 1.8 m
Roll period: 14.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 65 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.77
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.31

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
a ram bow and a round stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.560 / 0.570
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.94 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24.36 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -7.00 degrees
Stern overhang: -3.00 ft / -0.91 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 26.50 ft / 8.08 m, 26.50 ft / 8.08 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 26.50 ft / 8.08 m, 26.50 ft / 8.08 m
- Aft deck: 35.00 %, 8.50 ft / 2.59 m, 8.50 ft / 2.59 m
- Quarter deck: 15.00 %, 8.50 ft / 2.59 m, 8.50 ft / 2.59 m
- Average freeboard: 17.50 ft / 5.33 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 88.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 127.0 %
Waterplane Area: 35,748 Square feet or 3,321 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 120 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 173 lbs/sq ft or 844 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.58
- Overall: 1.00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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Rhade
Post subject: Re: Dracan Commonwealth AUPosted: November 26th, 2011, 8:33 am
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Looking goooooood Night' looking good. :D

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Post subject: Re: Dracan Commonwealth AUPosted: November 26th, 2011, 9:26 am
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Very sharp set of drawings there, Nighthunter! I'm looking forward to seeing what the interwar rebuilds and WWII refits look like.

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Post subject: Re: Dracan Commonwealth AUPosted: November 26th, 2011, 11:43 pm
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Thanks guys!

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