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well, you run into one big problem here: where do you get the fins from for that extra set of missiles? you can not expand the finning area, as that is based around the size of the missiles. the control unit that is on top of the magazine would also not be duplicated, and you would not be able to put the magazines that close to each other because you need some construction around it, otherwise the center bulkhead would just bend when you empty one magazine.

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It's a battleship, it's got beam to burn so expand the fin storage that way. Or upwards for that matter.
True, but you'd still need room for the elevator and rail system. The entire thing will be covered on the final drawing so there's not much point in drawing it all out.
Right now there's space for 45cm thick girder in between the loaders which should be plenty for side-to-side rigidity and since the magazines are no wider than the original ones lengthwise rigidity/strength shouldn't be a problem either, especially once you start to look at the masses the structure was originally designed to take.
Come on Ace, you really don't think that. The missiles does not form part of the magazines structure. ANd even if they did, the load trays are still there.

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yes, it has space to expand the fin storage, but how would you reach it? this would result in, when firing the missiles, cabinets with fins being swapped as well..... not what I would want to do, as those cabinets are huge!
and I am talking about the weight of the missiles. if you have an construction with no longitudinal support (such as decks, as the original has) when the weights are changed, the bulkhead wants to bend. yes, it is not that big an problem that you could really see bulges or so, but it might very well be enough to make the elevator rail fitted on that bulkhead stop working.

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would doubling in height the finning area work? i mean addind another pair of fin storage levels under the ones already there.. or even adding them beside them, as i have more beam on a battleship...
i admit that i don't know that much about missile guidance systems, but every Tartar-armed us warships has a set of 2 SPG49 and 2 SPW2 for every twin launcher fitted on board, the benefit of having two twin launchers is (i think) to have upt to four missiles in the air at the same time, so each one would need it's dedicated missile guidance suite (i suppose 4SPG49 and 4SPW2, but i may be wrong too) wich should be also placed on centerline in order to fire those missiles to both port and starboard without problems; this puts me back to the problem that to have this entire suite placed i end up with such a massive piramidal setup that the highest illuminator is as hig as the main gun rangefinder ont he fire-control tower (and i still have to place the height-finder even higher behind them...)

as for the bulkhead between magazines, is this way better?

7 pixels instead of a single one

last but not least, thanks for the help given

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Ace, the thing is designed as a box. All the stresses should be taken up as compression by the sides/top/ends/bottom. I'd be very surprised if it relied on tension being taken up by external structures. It's inefficient, inelegant, takes up much more space and fails to utilize one of steels best quality, the ability to resist compression.

And you're already throwing multi ton missiles loaded with high explosives and rocket fuel around, designing a conveyor system to supply the fins is a much simpler task.

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Lovely idea

if there is an good solution for the finning area, I think this works.
and there is always some tension being taken up by external structures, as just plating can not take any load, you have to have constructions on it, which can not be at the inside of the magazine as the elevators are there. I would estimate about 1 meter between the magazines would work, as you have to be able to actually build and maintain the void space that exists because of these constructions. (that means a minimum of about 60 cm between the bulkhead, IIRC)

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Interesting...It could be interesting to fit the fixed-array SPS-32/33 like Long Beach and Enterprise. That was considered the cat's meow when those two ships were built. It's never worked worth a darn (at least on Long Beach when I was onboard), but the designers might have at least played with the idea. Just a thought.

Great work on the Montanas!

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I'm not sure they'd have played well with the 18in guns.

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