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SINJOORTJE
Post subject: Re: Look I'm sort a new so here are some stuff i didPosted: August 23rd, 2011, 10:56 pm
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A battlecruiser is like a battleship just with cruiser scale armor and increased speed.
Also why RAM and not sea RAM?
Why should I take away the Harpoons.
Below deck hangar.


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BlueEagle1
Post subject: Re: Look I'm sort a new so here are some stuff i didPosted: August 23rd, 2011, 11:48 pm
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Oh wow, I can't believe someone is actually using my old crap battlecruiser from forever ago lol.


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SINJOORTJE
Post subject: Re: Look I'm sort a new so here are some stuff i didPosted: August 24th, 2011, 12:29 am
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Dude your ship has a beautiful hull and I believe that it is awesome


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Post subject: Re: Look I'm sort a new so here are some stuff i didPosted: August 24th, 2011, 3:25 am
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Complete sentences make me happy, so please use them.
SINJOORTJE wrote:
A battlecruiser is like a battleship just with cruiser scale armor and increased speed.
Ok, so what does mean in the missile era? You've just given a fine 1920's definition, but a 1920s definition is no longer valid.
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Also why RAM and not sea RAM?
The Mk-49 GMLS that is meant when I say RAM over SeaRAM, is prefered because it offers 21 missiles on the launcher rather than the 11 for the SeaRAM mount.
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Why should I take away the Harpoons.
That's pink, so update, not remove. Not that removing the Harpoons would be a bad idea- it would help with any top-weight issues that might crop up.
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Below deck hangar.
Below deck hangers tend to not work all that well. Witness what happened to the hangers on the Virginia Class cruisers.

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Post subject: Re: Look I'm sort a new so here are some stuff i didPosted: August 24th, 2011, 5:09 am
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Ok but why not sea ram. I mean sure less missles but it is self contained.
I think I will remove the harpoon mounts and instead put the harpoons in the VLS
I think that a fine mission and description for a modern battlecruiser would be similar to the use of an Alaska.
Which is that it is a fast air defense escort for carriers. That is why I gave it so many VLS, phalanx, 5in mounts, and why I used a double 5 in of my own design instead of maybe using the stealth 8 in.


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Post subject: Re: Look I'm sort a new so here are some stuff i didPosted: August 24th, 2011, 7:40 am
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SINJOORTJE wrote:
Ok but why not sea ram. I mean sure less missles but it is self contained.
SeaRAM is designed for ships that doesn't have the sensors to guide RAM. You should have plenty of sensors so you don't need SeaRAM. If I'm not mistaken SeaRAM is more expensive than the standard RAM launcher due to the extra electronics and in this case it will decrease your capabilities.

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I think that a fine mission and description for a modern battlecruiser would be similar to the use of an Alaska.
Which is that it is a fast air defense escort for carriers. That is why I gave it so many VLS, phalanx, 5in mounts, and why I used a double 5 in of my own design instead of maybe using the stealth 8 in.
Except that wasn't the Alaska's mission. The Alaska was designed to counter enemy cruisers and commerce raiders. When they failed to materialize they were turned into AA escorts. Not because they were good at it, but because the were fast enough to keep up with the carriers and because they were available

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Post subject: Re: Look I'm sort a new so here are some stuff i didPosted: August 24th, 2011, 2:02 pm
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I know that was not the mission. But I never said it was. I said that the mission for MY battlecruiser would be similar to the USE of the Alaskas.
About the sea ram. Really? I never knew they were more expensive. If so then I will for sure put normal RAM on the ship.
I was thinking about using a Nimitz type CIWS setup with both missles and phalanx.


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Thiel
Post subject: Re: Look I'm sort a new so here are some stuff i didPosted: August 24th, 2011, 2:27 pm
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But then you don't need a battlecruiser or a large cruiser.
If AAW is your focus then you need to get rid of most of the guns since they don't do much for you air defence, quite the contrary in fact.
The weight saved should then be relocated towards better sensors and possibly helicopter facilities.
Same with the MLRS.

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Post subject: Re: Look I'm sort a new so here are some stuff i didPosted: August 24th, 2011, 2:32 pm
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What in hell does Phalanx have to do with protecting a carrier? Or even 5/54 for that matter?


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Post subject: Re: Look I'm sort a new so here are some stuff i didPosted: August 24th, 2011, 11:57 pm
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I will be deleting the bean guns but I will keep the Double 5 in mounts and the MLRS.


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