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What about this? A variant of Challenger I for my army. Timeline supposed to be 1986-1994 for I and 2001-2007 for II.

"II" has also more powerful engine plus several improvements in electronics, an indigenous design based on the previous Challenger I, while "I" is the Challenger I with the Middle East package for dust and heat.

Looks ok to me.

Yes looks good, can we expect a more moderner versio to?

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Aart.

Projects:

The Kingdom of Rochfort in FD

Yes, a new variant (Lion III) is on design board. Will feature anti tank protection systems and laser protection also. Newer armor is also on development. The tank is already capable of firing antitank missiles co-developed with Israel. For now the older units are being modernised with the electronic package of Lion II. Also a remote control platform with a 0.5" is on testing, fitted on an old Leopard I for trials.

It's looking good but perhaps out of "general"-section of this forum

This is a general question thread, these tanks were repost with proper camo in my main thread.

Lets return to ships again. Revisiting the Project Orion LPH, but now she has the Italian size of 175m, as described in that site about Never Built Italian Ships.Real life Garibaldi can accommodate 16 x SH-3D, its hangar fits 12. One LPH "Orion" is enough to replace the two Miltiades helicopter cruisers, if I can have at least 8 large helicopters on it. But the ship needs to have somewhat better self defense capabilities from just Sea Sparrow and Dardo. Is it posible to use the smaller Mk26 GMLS (24 missiles)-or one Mk13 GMLS- plus one Mk29 and 4 Dardos on the standard 175m x 30m hull plus 8-12 helicopters ( number depending of size) ? Same propulsion with Kimon Class, for 30 kn max.

Another solution is to put the Mk13 in the position of Mk29 and later add Mk48 mod2 for Sea Sparrow/ESSM.



According to SecretProjects, some specs of the original design are:

CNR, now Fincantieri, 1978, for export (Garibaldi was yet on building)
Sea Control & Assault Ship

Displacement: 12500 tonn
overall lenght. 175 m
beam 30
x 19 m (draft? or superstructure?)
max speed: 29 nodi
4 CNR/Foster Wheeler boiler
3 VTOL squadron or heavy helicopter
SSM Otomat
Breda/Bofors 40/70
sclar
Mk32 triple launcher by 324 mm

Selenia IPN10,
NA10,
radar RAN3L,
radar RAN10S,
SPQ2D,
hull sonar

Primary role of this ship is ASW missions in East Mediterranean.

P.S I compared this plan with the Garibaldi from the archive and seems to be adequate in scale, so she will come in real sb-scale.

The cruiser with underwater hull, borrowed from the old design of Vitorio Venetto:

Looks quite impressive, though I have to say I don't quite like the looks of the aft part of underwater hull.

yeah, every black line is an 90 degrees corner, and the shading is telling us also there is an 45 degrees angle there to.... weird. in fact it so ugly that ... I mean the aft hull. I believed that you know better!