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Post subject: Re: Dutch and Indonesian LeandersPosted: May 24th, 2011, 10:55 am
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Portsmouth Bill wrote:
Very nice Shipmate :) But can you tell me what that impressive looking sam is on 354? Allowing that it isn't to scale its till very large, compared to the ssm.
actually KRI oswald siahaan 354 already done some shooting test of P-800 oniks ssm. and the target is the decomissioned lst KRI Teluk bayur an ex uss lst 616 which is 150 nm in distance and hit it suceeded.


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Post subject: Re: Dutch and Indonesian LeandersPosted: May 25th, 2011, 12:58 am
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rd77 wrote:
Great update Alex! Very minor minor nitpick: shouldn't the heli be hovering in the air on your drawing? I thought the hangar had been filled in with the Yakhont missiles. Or is it still working?
Crap! yes you are rigth! Sould be removed! :mrgreen:

Thanks a lot Tim!!
From the pictures shown of the test firing the hangers are still active and still being used

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in addition they have also remove the 2 fire control radars that are mount below and on both sides of the enclosed LW-02/3 Mast and appear empty. I wonder if it was done to allow space to relocate the Mistral Simbad SAM system though it doesnt appear to be fitted in that location and in my view is a ideal spot to remount them to.

As for KRI Karel Satsuitubun (356) the compartments that are fitted on top of the hangers are actually Missile storage Magazines for storing reload rounds for the 2xMistral Simbad SAM fitted where Seacat was once used and not for the 4x Yankhot VL SSM as the next picture shows. They also had this arrangement fitted to most of the class that was retrofitted with mistral even before the Indonesians Purchased the Yankhot SSM off the Russians.

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KRI Karel Satsuitubun (356)

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KRI Karel Satsuitubun (356)

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KRI Abdul Halim Perdanakusuma (355)- I apologies that the pic is small but you can see on back carefully on top of the hanger that its also refitted with the same configuration

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Mitchell van Os
Post subject: Re: Dutch and Indonesian LeandersPosted: May 25th, 2011, 12:01 pm
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How about the hangar?
Can they still carry a helicopter? Or is that missile launcher in the hangar itself?

And pics?

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Post subject: Re: Dutch and Indonesian LeandersPosted: May 25th, 2011, 12:48 pm
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Certainly the old Leander had more growth in it than the Admiralty dared hope for when it was designed. When you look at the kind of work done to these ships and the additions made over the years by all the operators of the class its pretty impressive, few classes of equal vintage have stood the test of time so well.

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Post subject: Re: Dutch and Indonesian LeandersPosted: May 25th, 2011, 12:49 pm
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MitcheLL300 wrote:
How about the hangar?
Can they still carry a helicopter? Or is that missile launcher in the hangar itself?

And pics?
The 4x Yankhont VLS missile Launchers run along both sides of the hanger (2 per side) onboard KRI Oswald Siahaan (354). They using a very similar principle used On the Dutch Built Karl Doorman Class FFGs with the Mk-48 VLS for Sea Sparrow.

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Post subject: Re: Dutch and Indonesian LeandersPosted: May 25th, 2011, 2:08 pm
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Ehm, it looks to me they are right in the middle of the hangar...
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Post subject: Re: Dutch and Indonesian LeandersPosted: May 25th, 2011, 2:24 pm
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he just stated above, that those aren't the launchers ;) that was just what he said.

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