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Shipright
Post subject: Re: belowdeck partsPosted: October 9th, 2013, 3:22 pm
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Ha, like that challege laid down wasn't going to be accepted :)

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From left to right:
-Mk1 Human
-Combination oven/steamer stack
-Stand up mixer
-Griddle w/ gaylord
-Stainless counter w/ undercounter reefer/freezer
-Industrial microwave
-Counter top steamer
-Meat Slicer
-Stainless counter w/ dishwasher and undercounter reefer/freezer
-Bread Slicer
-Bufflo Chopper
-Deep fat fryer w/ gaylord
-Stand up reefer/freezer
-Bread Proofer
-Small electric steam kettle
-Large electric steam kettle
-Tilt skillet

This is all the galley equipment present in the crew galley of a DDG51 FLTI, though there are multiples of some of these.


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erik_t
Post subject: Re: belowdeck partsPosted: October 9th, 2013, 4:23 pm
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I generally agree with Hood, but that doesn't mean I don't get a chuckle every time I see a little tiny thing that isn't strictly necessary.


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Post subject: Re: belowdeck partsPosted: October 9th, 2013, 5:16 pm
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erik_t wrote:
a little tiny thing that isn't strictly necessary.
could you maybe explain this a bit more? you mean like the 'semi-joke' stuff in the posts by heuhen and shipright, or do you have that 'chuckle' on the stuff posted in the first post of this thread too?

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Post subject: Re: belowdeck partsPosted: October 9th, 2013, 5:26 pm
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erik_t wrote:
I generally agree with Hood, but that doesn't mean I don't get a chuckle every time I see a little tiny thing that isn't strictly necessary.

You try telling a shipmate his fresh bread "isn't necessary".... ;)

But I see you want to see the IMPORTANT stuff, the things that REALLY makes a US warship go...?

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...may I introduce you to the DDG51 FLTI wardroom, from left to right:

-Mk1 mouth breathing Ensign briefer ("How do I hide I know absolutely nothing about what is on these slides...")
-SUPPO's chair (*sleeping*)
-OPS's chair (*picking nose*)
-CMC's chair ("how in the hell is this butter bar getting paid more than me for THIS")
-XO's chair ("I am pulling this boot's PQS as soon as this is over")
-POWERPOINT!!!
-CO's chair ("Who can I blame for this... AH, CSO!")
-CSO's chair ("I am going to get blamed for this")
-WEPS's chair (*daydreaming*)
-NAV's chair ("YAY, I am sitting at the big girl's table!")
-Coffee, lots of it


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Post subject: Re: belowdeck partsPosted: October 9th, 2013, 7:13 pm
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For practical reasons (space on sheets) I'd keep belowdeck ("cutaway") parts on separate sheets but organized (filenamed) in the common sequence with "main sheets", though I think it could lead to situation where they'd be perceived as "less worthy" - which certainly isn't the case, esp. considering how much effort is being put in creating them.

Few words on "current problems":
-to me the definition of "belowdeck parts" would be rather intuitive - they are these elements that can't be seen (in significant part or in entriety) on "typical" SB drawing - like ammunition/missile/torpedo etc. magazines and reloading mechanisms, propulsion, and installations particularly important to the tasks of the ship on the drawing (or significant for some technical/historical reason and therefore valuable to show). Parts like kitchen installations, toilet plumbing, bunks etc. although in fact critically important to actual operation of any vessel, rather don't need to be added except in a bit of tongue-in-cheek manner. ;)
-as for the deck penetration issue - I'd say that if there's something "hidden" (of the part/installation that's "eligible" to be included in the sheet) then certainly it fits. If particular part has no deck penetration, I'd certainly still see it on the sheet if it would be some sort of "complete preview" (for example: sheet "guns of navy X" with 10 types of guns - 9 with deck penetration, 1 without).

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Great work! :lol:
Even though for the actual purpose of this thread (it's "spirit") these drawings can't be considered anything else than humorous, they are excellent in themselves. :)


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Post subject: Re: belowdeck partsPosted: October 9th, 2013, 10:57 pm
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On the other hand, it's a reminder of all the stuff you need on a warship and roughly how much space it takes up. ;)

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Post subject: Re: belowdeck partsPosted: October 11th, 2013, 11:00 pm
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Is there anything for the French M 1953-64 100mm guns? I find the current drawing (at least I think it is) confusing. viewtopic.php?f=23&t=491&start=140 Is that showing some below decks penetration? I can't find any pics showing it raised that high up.

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Post subject: Re: belowdeck partsPosted: October 11th, 2013, 11:34 pm
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Obsydian Shade wrote:
Is there anything for the French M 1953-64 100mm guns? I find the current drawing (at least I think it is) confusing. viewtopic.php?f=23&t=491&start=140 Is that showing some below decks penetration? I can't find any pics showing it raised that high up.

raised that high:

It's depending on which ship they was mounted on. some ship might have them mounted higher up due too something that is in the way (aka High solid railings, or parts of an superstructure) other might have them mounted low.

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Post subject: Re: belowdeck partsPosted: October 12th, 2013, 12:39 pm
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Obsydian Shade wrote:
Is there anything for the French M 1953-64 100mm guns? I find the current drawing (at least I think it is) confusing. viewtopic.php?f=23&t=491&start=140 Is that showing some below decks penetration? I can't find any pics showing it raised that high up.
it was raised higher on some ships, so no, no belowdeck part shown (this gun was drawn before this thread started)
I have some references for her belowdeck part somewhere, if you require I will look it up and draw it, but the fact that I myself did not require this gun yet makes that I have not drawn nor checked it.

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Post subject: Re: belowdeck partsPosted: October 12th, 2013, 3:38 pm
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That explains it. I checked Bezo's DDG as the most recent ship using it that I could think of, and it seemed lower mounted, which made me think that some of the drawing was showing belowdeck parts. I'm looking at possibly substituting it for Soviet made Ak-276, but am researching the weights. It seems that the the M-1964 version is around the same weight as that gun.

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