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odysseus1980
Post subject: Re: Some questions about Ships and WeaponsPosted: February 20th, 2013, 1:54 pm
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2 first ships remained "as built" and 4 last received 64-cell Mk41.


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Post subject: Re: Some questions about Ships and WeaponsPosted: February 22nd, 2013, 5:48 pm
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From Western airliners only the VC-10 was stongly-built and could be converted to MPA.What about Soviet airlines?There was the Il-38,based on the Il-18.Is there a jet which could be converted?Soviets copied the West sometimes,perhaps if there was VC-10MPA,Soviets would "copy" it using own airframe.


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Post subject: Re: Some questions about Ships and WeaponsPosted: February 23rd, 2013, 9:58 am
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odysseus1980 wrote:
From Western airliners only the VC-10 was stongly-built and could be converted to MPA.
Ummm...no? No offense but it's not entirely clear as to what you're talking or asking about.

All Nimrods ever to fly were direct conversions of Comets left on the production line when they quit making them, due to nobody buying them. The P-3 is based off an airliner design, though a very deep re-engineering of such.

There were proposals back around the time frame you're looking at for Western jet-propelled MPA submissions. Boeing and Douglas proposed jets based on existing airliners (737/727 and DC-8/9), completely new designs and something in between (one Douglas proposal was for a tri-jet DC-8/9 hybrid of sorts). I actually found out in doing research for a project that Lockheed proposed and all-new twin jet-based MPA with an unusually wide fuselage in order to accommodate a weapons bay and sensors and other goodies. The US Navy decided it was simplest to go with block upgrades of the P-3, but Lockheed noted that the fuselage was wide enough for a twin-aisle airline configuration and dusted it off for an American Airlines specification, eventually growing a third engine and becoming the L-1011 TriStar.


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Post subject: Re: Some questions about Ships and WeaponsPosted: February 24th, 2013, 8:29 am
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I started the Vickers VC10MPA and also other variants,such us EW.Still a WIP.
http://s11.postimage.org/pll3cw91v/Vickers_VC10_MPA.png


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Post subject: Re: Some questions about Ships and WeaponsPosted: March 12th, 2013, 7:15 am
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Perhaps there are questions about which GMLS Mk10 RHN(AU) Cruisers use,so this is:
-Elli Class CG had the Mk10 mod 1,with 40 missiles RIM-2C/F without ASROC,because Elli did not have sonar.
-Lysandros Class and the sole Miltiades CGH have the Mk10 mod 2,with 80 missiles.Usually load is 60 OMI-76ER,12-14 ASROC,6-8 OMI-77ER.
Obviously,OMI-76ER is a licensed copy of SM1-ER and OMI-77ER is the surface to surface variant of Standard family,itshelf started as RGM-66D/F in early 1970's and the whole project was purchased by HLK in 1975.All CG used the SPG-51 directors when launched and replaced by SPG-62 after modernisation.

The reason behind the use of Mk10 is that these GMLS were purchased from USN in very good price,as also with the Mk33 5" guns some years before.Several modifications to these Mk10s increased its rate of fire by about 10%,allowing one missile every 10 seconds.Mk26 of TN Gaziantep Class has double fire rate,but hold only 30-32 SM2 (because of Harpoon and ASROC missiles as well,to a total of 44 missiles).RHN cruisers have almost double load of surface to air missiles,with greater range (~185km) and the lethal,supersonic OMI-77ER with Exocet head.Also they are capable of guiding 8 surface to air missiles simultaneously.


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Post subject: Re: Some questions about Ships and WeaponsPosted: April 14th, 2013, 3:02 pm
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After reading for the Mk66 gun ,I thought an AU twin gun based on the Mk45,somewhat a modern form of the WW2 Mk38.I will use it to some AU USN CGN/CG I intend to do in future.I intend of basing the design on the old Mk66 drawning or on the Mk16.If wondering about those ships,they will be a variant of the CGN-42 and of Ticongeroga CG Never Where.But I will post my gun first,two variants to choose from,here.

And the gun:
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I mentioned "real" the guns we have in Parts Sheet,and "AU" my variant,as said above.


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Post subject: Re: Some questions about Ships and WeaponsPosted: April 28th, 2013, 3:56 pm
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For the Mirage IV:I will do the VI-A in French service as they were in the 1960's,leaving later camo to other more skilled than me.

Italy had bought 18 Br.1150 Atlantic in 1972-74.What else could Italy could have bought in about the same price?
I have seen Italian P-3 Orions in other alternate sceanarios.


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Post subject: Re: Some questions about Ships and WeaponsPosted: May 8th, 2013, 6:42 pm
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I've recently come across some images of a DC-10 MPA that was proposed for the Canadian Forces.

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Post subject: Re: Some questions about Ships and WeaponsPosted: May 8th, 2013, 10:23 pm
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Those would be rather interesting to see, rather interesting indeed. What sort of vintage?

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Post subject: Re: Some questions about Ships and WeaponsPosted: May 8th, 2013, 10:35 pm
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Blackbuck wrote:
Those would be rather interesting to see, rather interesting indeed. What sort of vintage?
It's in the last half of the posts in this thread over on Secret Projects. I don't know about the vintage, but they have what look to be Harpoons externally.

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