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Post subject: Re: Royal Norwegian NavyPosted: February 6th, 2011, 8:51 pm
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Post subject: Re: Royal Norwegian NavyPosted: February 6th, 2011, 10:24 pm
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On the Tyr's B-side you might want to mention what the rebuild entailed and what it was rebuild to do.
Also, the range shouldn't be all that hard to figure out. Look up any of its sisterships. Unless they replaced the engines, which I doubt, it'll have equal or shorter range than them.

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Post subject: Re: Royal Norwegian NavyPosted: February 6th, 2011, 10:28 pm
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Thiel wrote:
On the Tyr's B-side you might want to mention what the rebuild entailed and what it was rebuild to do.
Also, the range shouldn't be all that hard to figure out. Look up any of its sisterships. Unless they replaced the engines, which I doubt, it'll have equal or shorter range than them.
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Post subject: Re: Royal Norwegian NavyPosted: February 8th, 2011, 1:05 am
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Skorpionen
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Displacement: 1470 tonnes, by 1897 1,524 tons, iron hulled
Dimensions: Length 60.9 m, width 13.8 meters, depth 3.5 meters
Machinery: Horizontal single expanding steam engine, 330 hp barrels 7 knots
Crew: 85 men

Weapons:
1867: 2 * 216 mm knurled forladerkanoner
1897: 2 * 120 mm rapid-fire cannons
2 * 65 mm rapid-fire cannons
2 * 37 mm revolver guns

Built: Carjohansværns Værft, Horten, Building No. 49
Launched: 30 October 1866, hoisted command 15 June 1867

1867: The trial cruise in Baltic Sea
1872: Department Voyage
1897: Converted
1905: mobilized to services in outer Oslo fjord.
1905: Command stroke
1908: Sold for scrapping in Stavanger


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Post subject: Re: Royal Norwegian NavyPosted: February 8th, 2011, 4:54 am
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By the way, everything I found on this monitor was the information about the ship and some crude drawings. But when I took a look on these vessels that was build at that time elsewhere in the world, plus how the other vessels that were built in Norway for the military, especially from this yard ...

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Monitor Thor
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... awing1.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... awing2.png

and a swedish on:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... onitor.jpg


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Post subject: Re: Royal Norwegian NavyPosted: February 14th, 2011, 2:24 am
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F310 Fridtjof Nansen class

# Name Ordered Laid down Launched Commissioned
F310 Fridtjof Nansen 23 June 2000 9 April 2003 3 June 2004 5 April 2006
F311 Roald Amundsen 23 June 2000 3 June 2004 25 May 2005 21 May 2007[6]
F312 Otto Sverdrup 23 June 2000 25 May 2005 28 April 2006 30 April 2008[7]
F313 Helge Ingstad 23 June 2000 28 April 2006 23 November 2007 29 September 2009
F314 Thor Heyerdahl 23 June 2000 23 November 2007 11 February 2009 18 January 2011

Type:
Multi-role Frigate (Guided Missile and ASW)

Displacement: 5,290 tons full load
Length: 134m
Beam: 16.8m
Draft: 7.6m

Propulsion: Combined diesel and gas (CODAG)
Two BAZAN BRAVO 12V 4.5 MW diesel engines for cruising
One GE LM2500 21.5 MW gas turbine for high speed running

Speed: 26+ knots
Range: 4,500nm at 16 knots

Complement: 120, accommodations for 146

Armament: 1 × 8-cell Mk41 VLS w/ 32 × RIM-162 ESSM
8 × Naval Strike Missile SSMs
4 × torpedo tubes for Sting Ray torpedoes
Depth charges
1 × 76 mm OTO Melara Super Rapid gun
4 × 12,7 mm Browning M2HB HMG Sea Protector
2 x LRAD Long Range Acoustic Device

Prepared for, but not equipped with:
1 × Otobreda 127 mm/54 gun to replace the 76 mm
1 × spare 76mm OTO Melara Super Rapid gun
1 × spare CIWS gun w/ calibre 40 mm or less
3 × spare 8- cell Mk41 VLS launchers
Low cost ASW
ECM: Active Off-board Decoy

Aircraft carried: 1 × NH90 helicopter

As delivered
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With NSM
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Prepared for, but not equipped with
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fridtjof_N ... ss_frigate


Have talked to my stepfather (an retired lieutenant commander in the the Navy) about spy-1 radar. And I must first say that he was one of those who pushed the boss. just to get this particular radar, and he is also a radar expert in the Navy.

What I write now is what he says and is not to start a discussion that's not something to argue about because it's just like that, he said:

"... it is just the same, whether radar is mounted 15 meters above the water or 50 meters above the water, there is no maximum height only the minimum height! But one must also remember that any radar will have problems in the certain conditions, then you can experience that the radar signalings just is reflected back. up here in the Norway, especially mid-market 15 to 30 meters in height that it can happen but it happens maybe 1 time in the year that you experience it. That is also a reason why we got the radar located that high up to reduce the the danger of that to happen. but we could not mount radar higher (or we would have done that) for two reasons: the bridges in some places on the coast are are too low to that, and limitations in the the hull of that Bazan-frigate. In fact, the Norwegian Frigate proposal would manage to carry the spy-1 radar 5 to 10 meters higher than the Bazan-frigate!"

Mente du: som jeg husker så var de Norske fregatt forslagene ekstreme dyre, faktisk kunne man bare få to frigater for same pris som
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as I recall it was the Norwegian Frigate suggestions extreme expensive, in fact, one could only get two Frigate for the same price as five Bazan Frigate. and they were afraid that the Norwegian weapons and radar technology is not good enough. Hm. most of the the Norwegian Frigate's is/are equipped with Norwegian technology and equipment and weapons, except from Aegis Spy-1, guns, Millennium, helicopter, ...

should I take a spanner and hitting myself in the head or ... :-P


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Post subject: Re: Royal Norwegian NavyPosted: February 14th, 2011, 8:00 am
heuhen wrote:
Skorpionen
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Displacement: 1470 tonnes, by 1897 1,524 tons, iron hulled
Dimensions: Length 60.9 m, width 13.8 meters, depth 3.5 meters
Machinery: Horizontal single expanding steam engine, 330 hp barrels 7 knots
Crew: 85 men

Weapons:
1867: 2 * 216 mm knurled forladerkanoner
1897: 2 * 120 mm rapid-fire cannons
2 * 65 mm rapid-fire cannons
2 * 37 mm revolver guns

Built: Carjohansværns Værft, Horten, Building No. 49
Launched: 30 October 1866, hoisted command 15 June 1867

1867: The trial cruise in Baltic Sea
1872: Department Voyage
1897: Converted
1905: mobilized to services in outer Oslo fjord.
1905: Command stroke
1908: Sold for scrapping in Stavanger
THIS IS SERIEUSLY AWESOME!!!!


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Post subject: Re: Royal Norwegian NavyPosted: February 14th, 2011, 12:56 pm
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Thx. Alvama


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Post subject: Re: Royal Norwegian NavyPosted: February 14th, 2011, 3:13 pm
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good update on the nansen. only 2 minor nitpicks: use the newest drawing of the NH-90 (don't know if an norwegian version is already drawn, but dutch, italian versions are done already...
and the guns need to be recoloured to the correct colour, which is most likely the same as the structures colour. I might be wrong on that, so ignore this if I am wrong :D
otherwise very good work, and could you please PM me the full hull version of that RHIB? I like it, so I will add it to my parts collection :D

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Post subject: Re: Royal Norwegian NavyPosted: February 14th, 2011, 7:43 pm
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acelanceloet wrote:
good update on the nansen. only 2 minor nitpicks: use the newest drawing of the NH-90 (don't know if an norwegian version is already drawn, but dutch, italian versions are done already...
and the guns need to be recoloured to the correct colour, which is most likely the same as the structures colour. I might be wrong on that, so ignore this if I am wrong :D
otherwise very good work, and could you please PM me the full hull version of that RHIB? I like it, so I will add it to my parts collection :D
The RHIB is a Norsafe Magnum 750 Jet (Navy edition) viewtopic.php?f=16&t=69&start=10


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