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eswube
Post subject: Re: Parliamentary Republic of AtlantiaPosted: August 22nd, 2013, 12:00 pm
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Blackbuck wrote:
I recall reading somewhere that the maximum real effectively deployable air wing caps out at around 100 much more and you start to waste your assets.
Precisely (not so long ago I was myself banging on head with that rule one new member who draw or wanted to draw some mega-carrier). But then again, I'd say that probably nobody sane in real life would build that ship in the first place, so if we are to assume that it's just a not-totally-serious design exercise, then a 100-plane cap is slightly losing it's seriousness too. :)


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Post subject: Re: Parliamentary Republic of AtlantiaPosted: August 22nd, 2013, 1:35 pm
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Well, theoretically you could operate moreAC of a single ship, you just need more than one landing strip.

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Post subject: Re: Parliamentary Republic of AtlantiaPosted: August 22nd, 2013, 1:59 pm
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You mean?...

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Post subject: Re: Parliamentary Republic of AtlantiaPosted: August 22nd, 2013, 2:21 pm
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Hmmm, Intriguing

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Post subject: Re: Parliamentary Republic of AtlantiaPosted: August 22nd, 2013, 8:59 pm
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In theory yes.
Though managing two approach lanes that close to each other is going to be interesting.

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Post subject: Re: Parliamentary Republic of AtlantiaPosted: August 22nd, 2013, 9:11 pm
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Thiel wrote:
In theory yes.
Though managing two approach lanes that close to each other is going to be interesting.

Perhaps if they have the plane land first on one deck and so on the other deck. and not in the same time.

My solution would be to split the deck in two zones. on starboard landing and take off and port landing take off and landing zone. both zone controlled by and over-watch that signals when someone can land on the port-side, and when someone can land on starboard side or take off... and so one.

Yes more officers in command, more to go wrong but that might be the only way to control it all.

Also this might also solve the problem twin deck hangar ship might have. those that control the port landing and take off, get their plane from one the deck, while the starboard take their plane from the other deck.


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Post subject: Re: Parliamentary Republic of AtlantiaPosted: August 22nd, 2013, 9:57 pm
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You've still got two planes comming in with less than 30 seconds seperation.
It'll also complicate training massively since you need to train your pilots to have two abort patterns. And they need to be trained to the point where it becomes reflex.

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Post subject: Re: Parliamentary Republic of AtlantiaPosted: August 22nd, 2013, 10:05 pm
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What have I started...

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Post subject: Re: Parliamentary Republic of AtlantiaPosted: August 22nd, 2013, 10:18 pm
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the fact is also that with 2 parralel landing decks the ship has to have an extreme beam to clear the takeoff ramp on the bow. elevators is going to be an pain in the ass, and so is the hangar. the landing point will be entirely out on the edge of the deck, so the ship moves a lot more over there, and worst of all: I think the increase will not be an double airwing, but only an increase (20% max compared to an ship of the same displacement with an 'conventional' arrangement.)

30 second separation for the conventional deck, so here we get 15-20 seconds..... in which 2 aircraft need to be moved to the parking space or hangar, out of harms way, without getting in each others way. this requires planning and timing, and absolutely no room for error.

fun fact, the hangar would actually be smaller then that of an conventional deck, because there can be no deck edge elevators, the bridge has to cross it somewhere, and you need more elevators for the larger number of aircraft movements.

so, I would keep the conventional arrangement, and use the additional size for more repair and maintenance shops, more stored fuel and weapons and the ability to take slightly larger planes (aerial refueling aircraft and AEW, for example) instead of moving to an entirely different arrangement.)

that said, my own carrier design that is moving through revision after revision since I joined sb is more focussed on getting an as large as possible airwing on an size-restricted hull and deck ;) going to extreme size is not always the answer to getting 'unconventional'

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Post subject: Re: Parliamentary Republic of AtlantiaPosted: August 22nd, 2013, 10:39 pm
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Blackbuck wrote:
What have I started...
This always happens when someone posts a design that can't be dismissed out of hand.

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