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Post subject: Re: Portland ClassPosted: May 24th, 2013, 3:12 pm
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I don't understand what you are saying... anyway...

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Post subject: Re: Portland ClassPosted: May 24th, 2013, 3:19 pm
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Navybrat85 wrote:
Thanks again for the input....I am gonna throw this out so you can all have a laugh with me, because this is the reference my rendering in the original post is based off of. After several hours of picture-browsing, I've come to realize this image was...well, kinda useless.

[ img ] Can't remember the site I got it from, but after looking at lots of pictures, and even looking in the Janes Fighting Ships book I have, I noticed that this is probably NOT the source I want to be using.

Edit: bezobrazov, thank you for the apology, though I really didn't take any offense to your comments, actually. I don't have a reputation as being one of the more skilled artists on this forum. I am smart enough to realize this, and also to realize that going from an AU artist with only 1 real design (the Proteksan Turqouis yacht) this project is going to stretch and test my skills.

That said, I do feel like a real idjit for not doing more homework to start with before drawing from such flawed reference material.
Yes I would not use this drawing as a reference... for one thing you have to scale it UP which always results in problems. I would use the Indianapolis drawing BrockPaine posted earlier to get the dimensions etc.

You could always buy a set of the plans from The Floating Drydock. They have Portland in 1944. :) Then you can measure the plans with a ruler and know you have gotten it 100% correct. ;)

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Post subject: Re: Portland ClassPosted: May 24th, 2013, 3:48 pm
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Navybrat85 wrote:
Thanks again for the input....I am gonna throw this out so you can all have a laugh with me, because this is the reference my rendering in the original post is based off of. After several hours of picture-browsing, I've come to realize this image was...well, kinda useless.
At a glance, that base drawing appears to be some sort of... eh... conflation of the features on the pre- and post-refit ship. I see now where you got the overhanging bridge structure from. It appears the artist took the top-deck overhang from the post-refit ship and grafted on the windows and such from the pre-refit version (and post-refit AA guns).

Navybrat, I do hope you continue working on this: as a fan of the heavy cruisers, I do appreciate seeing them drawn properly. There's certainly enough in the way of drawings and photographs to make a right proper job of it, and along the way challenge yourself as an artist.
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Post subject: Re: Portland ClassPosted: May 24th, 2013, 4:06 pm
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Yes, I'd like to see it completed as well. Just spend some time researching and calmly/slowly go through it. The Alaska (rework) took almost two months. ;)

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Post subject: Re: Portland ClassPosted: May 24th, 2013, 5:54 pm
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Mihoshik usual personnal insult/attack
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jabba wrote:
Colombamike wrote:
when the situation is dramatic
when the situation is hopeless
when darkness invaded shipbucket
Mike is near, yeah near you, he is watching you, ready to strike
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Delusions of grandeur.


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Post subject: Re: Portland ClassPosted: May 24th, 2013, 6:59 pm
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Show me the Booklet of General Plans. ;)

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Post subject: Re: Portland ClassPosted: May 25th, 2013, 1:11 am
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On review, Colombamike's first drawing shows the Indianapolis as she was following her April 1942 refit. It was more austere than Portland's post-Tassafaronga refit. It appears the Indianapolis was refitted again in early 1943 (around the same time as Portland) which is when her aftworks were razed and her bridge was reconstructed into the brick-like structure. Following the 1943 refit, Indianapolis had the angled funnel cap on the forward, but not the aft funnel.

The second drawing shows her after one of the two refits she received in 1944. At the first of these refits she received the second funnel cap that was shown.
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Post subject: Re: Portland ClassPosted: May 25th, 2013, 10:33 am
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Colombamike wrote:
when the situation is dramatic
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when darkness invaded shipbucket
Mike is near, yeah near you, he is watching you, ready to strike
Always
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Post subject: Re: Portland ClassPosted: May 25th, 2013, 5:41 pm
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jabba wrote:
Colombamike wrote:
when the situation is dramatic
when the situation is hopeless
when darkness invaded shipbucket
Mike is near, yeah near you, he is watching you, ready to strike
Always
...?
Delusions of grandeur.

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Post subject: Re: Portland ClassPosted: May 25th, 2013, 10:57 pm
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