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Post subject: Re: Germany - Division-Torpedo Boat (1887)Posted: May 13th, 2013, 9:33 pm
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Excellent job, and interesting crafts.

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Post subject: Re: Germany - Division-Torpedo Boat (1887)Posted: May 24th, 2013, 11:52 pm
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Thanks to everyone!

By the turn of the century, the technical developement had overtaken D1 and D2 and left the torpedo boat fleet, but were not taken out of comission - Both were rebuilt as station yachts. D1, now renamed Carmen, served in Kiel as escort ship, tour ship for 'bathing guests', high ranking visiors or parade ship for the Kiel Week or for foreign guests. Of course the torpedo-boat black had been replaced by the representative white and gold, always scrubbed clean and shiny. The origin of the spanish-sounding name is a mystery, but some say it was due to the old engine rattling like castanets.
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The new name of D2 was unusual, at least for a German ship: Alice Roosevelt. As emerging global players the United States and the German Empire had collided severeal times, noticable was the Manila-conflict of 1898. As an act of diplomatic good will, the German Kaiser had ordered the new Imperial racing yacht (the thrid Meteor) at Shooter's Island, New York City. For the christening act in 1902, the Kaiser's brother, Prince Heinrich von Preussen came over to the United States, patroness of the new yacht was the daughter of President Theodore Roosevelt, Alice Rossevelt. This act was also the foundation of the German-American sailing friendship.

When Alice Roosevelt was asked by Heinrich von Preussen if she had a wish about a favour in return, she said (in joke) that one of those noble military titles would be nice. This, of course, was impossible, so in return one of the rebuilt station yachts was named after her.

D2 was rebuilt a similar way like D1, but with a slightly smaller deck house and different bridge structure. Also, she kept her 50mm cannons, but those were now fired for salutes only, as she served in the same function in Wilhelmshaven as her sistership.
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By 1909, Alice Roosevelt had recieved a new boiler, which caused the funnel to be moved back. Also, the deck house was now identical to the one on Carmen.
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Post subject: Re: Germany - Division-Torpedo Boat (1887)Posted: May 25th, 2013, 12:44 am
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Post subject: Re: Germany - Division-Torpedo Boat (1887)Posted: May 25th, 2013, 7:03 am
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Very interesting, and of course a great work.


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Post subject: Re: Germany - Division-Torpedo Boat (1887)Posted: February 2nd, 2016, 9:05 pm
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After Garlicdesign had posted his excellent torpedoboats, I wanted to come back to these ships as well. Both ships have been updated a bit, mor might follow soon.

D1:
Original form, with sails, because gof knows these 'steam engines' are just a fad anyways:
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As it turns out, engines are where it's at, so the sails are reduced:
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Soon, the sails are completely removed and the masts replaced with a new design:
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Technology developed fast these days and soon D1 was removed from active duty, renamed Carmen and used as a station yacht.
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Back in black during the war as coastal picket ship:
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D2
Sister ship to D1, she had a similar history of modifications to her propulsion. Here she is in her final torpedo boat form:
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Here as station yacht Alice Roosevelt, because reality is stranger than fiction.
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A new boiler changed her appearance slightly, most notably the moved funnel.
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When the war broke out, a name like Alice Roosevelt was no longer suitable, so she was renamed D2 again.
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Post subject: Re: Germany - Division-Torpedo Boat (1887)Posted: February 2nd, 2016, 9:13 pm
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Between you ans Garlicdesign we are getting a great lesson in the evolution of the German torpedo boat


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Post subject: Re: Germany - Division-Torpedo Boat (1887)Posted: February 2nd, 2016, 9:30 pm
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It should be noted that Ms. Alice Lee Roosevelt (Longworth) 1884-1980 - The White House Princess - was a very temperamental and charismatic independent woman, who was the unofficial First Lady during Papa Theodore's presidency (1901-09) She participated in a great diplomatic mission to the Far East in 1905-06, and created a scandal by her very "modern' ways. She charmed the wits of the very affable and cavalier Prince Heinrich of Prussia.

Now, I wonder if the SMS Alice Roosevelt shared any of "her" namesake's characteristics?

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Post subject: Re: Germany - Division-Torpedo Boat (1887)Posted: February 2nd, 2016, 11:12 pm
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Post subject: Re: Germany - Division-Torpedo Boat (1887)Posted: February 3rd, 2016, 7:20 am
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Great work! Great Work!

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Post subject: Re: Germany - Division-Torpedo Boat (1887)Posted: February 3rd, 2016, 8:37 am
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Excellent additions and its interesting to compare the new yacht versions with the older ones.

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