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acelanceloet
Post subject: Re: USN Systems (02/26/2013)Posted: May 9th, 2013, 7:02 am
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what exactly is wrong about it? the SQS-26 was sourced from friedman's US destroyers, well, at least the outlines. the rest I painted in using pictures..... isn't the SQS-53 the same dome as the 26? both the burke pictures and (as far as I could see) spruance pictures showed the same rubber dome and shape as the SQS-26 of for example the knox and the bronstein, the only thing I can think wrong would be the rubber cover, as the tico indeed has something different (somewhat closer to the rubber dome we previously had) but IIRC, with no metal at the bottom, all rubber.
the SQS-23 is drawn the same way, using friedmans for the outline and pics (but a lot less of them) for shaping and detailing it.
the SQS-56 comes from the perry building plans, IIRC.

if you have different (or better) source material, please show it and I will of course fix it, but as far as I could find out, this is correct.

EDIT: added some of the sources I used. missing is especially the bronstein pic of the SQS-26 which is in friedmans, which I started with :P.
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Post subject: Re: USN Systems (02/26/2013)Posted: May 9th, 2013, 7:28 pm
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I could swear I posted these somewhere but I guess I didn't. I know I drew them a while back but here they are, the 5"/38 Mk.21 Semi enclosed single mounts:

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Post subject: Re: USN Systems (02/26/2013)Posted: May 9th, 2013, 8:51 pm
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That's not a Mk 28 mount, it's the Mk 21 Mod 3/5/12/15. The Mk 21 Mod 1 (the only other semi-enclosed single mount mod) is similar, but lacks the aft railing.

My breakdown of the 5"/38 mount Marks and Mods is online here. It's compiled from the HNSA Gun Catalog.

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Post subject: Re: USN Systems (02/26/2013)Posted: May 9th, 2013, 11:35 pm
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The SQS-26/53 dome is symmetrical top and bottom, and the rubber portion does not extend to the very bottom of the dome.

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Both the shape and the coloring are incorrect.


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Post subject: Re: USN Systems (02/26/2013)Posted: May 10th, 2013, 12:07 am
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Edited Mk21 post

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Post subject: Re: USN Systems (02/26/2013)Posted: May 10th, 2013, 6:52 am
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are you certain the cover does not go over the metal part as well, just being reinforced by it? none of my pictures shows any of that metal bottom..... and what do you mean with symmetrical?

also, that first picture in your previous post, is that the rubber cover or is it part of the dome? I could not really place it... if it is the rubber cover, there's indeed some work to do.

that said, I do not think the shape of this dome is perfect, but it is the best source I had available....

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Post subject: Re: USN Systems (02/26/2013)Posted: May 10th, 2013, 8:43 am
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I suppose a lot of people here, are sticklers to detail and it's good because the parts are accurate, which makes the ship drawing(s) more closely match what you see in the photographs. For myself, I want certain things as close as possible. Otherwise, if it bears a close resemblance, that's fine also. I certainly don't care what a sonar dome looks like, since it's usually underwater and I can't see it anyways.

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Post subject: Re: USN Systems (02/26/2013)Posted: May 11th, 2013, 5:22 am
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It needs to be accurate down to the pixel. Anything less is unacceptable. Do it right the first time and that way you don't have to keep revising it.

Anyway, OP updated with small parts sheets I've made. I vote that we delete all the dumb change logs as they're just cumbersome and not worth the space they take up.

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Post subject: Re: USN Systems (02/26/2013)Posted: May 14th, 2013, 10:52 am
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Ace.... see at 19:00 the sonar of the AB class.

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Post subject: Re: USN Systems (02/26/2013)Posted: June 1st, 2013, 12:13 pm
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Just a question...when did the USN switch to blue for the underwater hull?

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