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Erusia Force
Post subject: Re: American WWI BattletubsPosted: April 27th, 2013, 9:18 pm
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MS Paint comes with every computer, even yours. ;)
Unless you have a Mac like me, then you have to work with the lower grade Paintbrush :x


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Post subject: Re: American WWI BattletubsPosted: April 27th, 2013, 9:29 pm
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http://www.pixelprospector.com/the-big- ... c-edition/

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Post subject: Re: American WWI BattletubsPosted: April 27th, 2013, 9:45 pm
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Colombamike wrote:
Unfortunately, I agree with Colo
Karle, holy shit !!! :o :(
Your US 1912-1928's drawings seemed good
And now you do the shit !!! argh!!!!!!!!!!!
You know, I don't feel like I'm out of line when I give the kind of feedback I just gave. But coming from you, I feel this tone is completely unwarranted and disrespectful. You have never once contributed a single drawing to this website. Please show respect to those who do. Even if their drawings are not perfect. There's nothing wrong with providing feedback, but to call his most recent work "the shit" and to treat him like this is completely unbecoming.

The artist will always take precedence over the nitpicker and the critic.

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Karle94
Post subject: Re: American WWI BattletubsPosted: April 27th, 2013, 9:55 pm
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I have Applied a modified Measure 12 to the 1941 Arkansas, and a Measure 22 to the 1942 appearence. The mast thingy had been fixed. The 1942 Version is indeed the july version of the ship. That`s why it has the MS 22 and the tripod mast, and the rebuilt superstructure.


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Colombamike
Post subject: Re: American WWI BattletubsPosted: April 28th, 2013, 8:05 am
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Karle94 wrote:
The 1942 Version is indeed the july version of the ship. That`s why it has the MS 22 and the tripod mast, and the rebuilt superstructure.
For a June/July 1942 version, I found some AA Weapons errors/mistake
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You can see the ship details by June/July 1942 here, here, here, here, here, here, here......

the problem with U.S. ships by 1941/1945 is that they were often modified with new radar and AA armament.
When you draw a US BB for a specified period, you have to check the exact configuration of the ship

Think NAVSOURCE !


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Karle94
Post subject: Re: American WWI BattletubsPosted: April 28th, 2013, 1:00 pm
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Navsource is my primary Source for dated images. It`s difficult to see the AA guns when they are covered in canvas. Anyway, the ship has been fixed.


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Thiel
Post subject: Re: American WWI BattletubsPosted: April 28th, 2013, 1:42 pm
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Not really. This picture 20mm Oerlikons (The shield are kinda hard to miss), 3"/50ies (Too small t be 5in guns and too long to be 3"/23s) and 1.1in/75s (Not big enough to be a quad Bofors and canvas over the barrels is too wide to be a twin mount.)
I can even go a step further and say that the 20mm guns are Mark 5s. (Slim bell type mounting without trunnion height adjustment wheel)

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Post subject: Re: American WWI BattletubsPosted: April 28th, 2013, 1:48 pm
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If you look aft, towards the stern, do you see two Oerlikons there?


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Thiel
Post subject: Re: American WWI BattletubsPosted: April 28th, 2013, 2:11 pm
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Yes,I do.

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Post subject: Re: American WWI BattletubsPosted: April 28th, 2013, 5:48 pm
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Just looking at the Navsource images for a few minutes, I can find numerous errors and omissions you have made. PLEASE, spend more time researching before you go and trace the drawing! You are missing MANY little details - like vents, hawser reels, winches, gun gear lockers for the Oerlikons, barrel coolers for the Oerlikons, and many, many more small items.

Also, why do you not take the time to respond to every point of our criticism? You answer one question and then post more traced drawings. It's very frustrating as it feels as though my words are falling on deaf ears.

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