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Zephyr
Post subject: Re: Deveour class heavy cruiserPosted: January 2nd, 2013, 4:56 am
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It just seems rather sparce. Maybe take a look at the late war Baltimore, Oregon City and Salem drawings. *shrug*
eh, I don't know what most of the radars do and are for so I'm kind of weary of putting wrong/useless radars on
Oh, believe me, I can understand that completely. For the longest time, and even still with modern radars, I was just shooting from the hip. Listen to folk like Colo, though, he does know his stuff when it comes to WW2 era gear.

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Post subject: Re: Deveour class heavy cruiserPosted: January 2nd, 2013, 9:41 am
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Overall it looks pretty good, I like the lines, semi-Italian and semi-American. A good combination.

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Post subject: Re: Deveour class heavy cruiserPosted: January 2nd, 2013, 2:52 pm
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Version 4, added the props suggested by Colo, tried on new radars and raised most of the superstructure up one deck.


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Post subject: Re: Deveour class heavy cruiserPosted: January 2nd, 2013, 4:25 pm
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Really starting to look like a proper heavy cruiser. A question, though. No aircraft catapult? Or is this class designed to mostly work in concert with shore-based or carrier-based aircraft? If it was me, I'd put a catapult and crane aft, but thats up to you and your preference, obviously.

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Post subject: Re: Deveour class heavy cruiserPosted: January 2nd, 2013, 4:49 pm
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Didn't the aircraft on cruisers get gradually phased out by the end of WW2? If my memory doesn't fail me, the Des Moines class for example didn't have a catapult...


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Post subject: Re: Deveour class heavy cruiserPosted: January 2nd, 2013, 5:56 pm
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I believe so, yes. But I've always been a believer in having some sort of aircraft on cruisers, which is why I just said "in my opinion". ;) Just tossing it out as an option is all.

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Post subject: Re: Deveour class heavy cruiserPosted: January 2nd, 2013, 7:55 pm
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This ship is outfitted with mid-war type radar fits and relatively-modern gunnery and fire control systems, but it still ships a large complement of ship's boats (which had been mostly removed by 1942 after disastrous experiences in the Solomons, where several ship's boats had caught fire and provided a beacon for enemy gunfire).

This cruiser needs to be drawn in various stages of its evolution, probably starting with a "1939" version (full boat complement, seaplanes, older fire control (or none at all), very few light AA, no radar), a 1942 version (no ship's boats, early radar, more light AA, etc), and a 1946 version (no boats, reduced air arm, "modern" radar, loads of light AA and cleaned up sky arcs for better AA coverage).

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Post subject: Re: Deveour class heavy cruiserPosted: January 2nd, 2013, 8:14 pm
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Colosseum wrote:
This ship is outfitted with mid-war type radar fits and relatively-modern gunnery and fire control systems, but it still ships a large complement of ship's boats (which had been mostly removed by 1942 after disastrous experiences in the Solomons, where several ship's boats had caught fire and provided a beacon for enemy gunfire).
to balance out the lack of boats adding more rafts should suffice, am I correct?

as for drawing the ships evolution, could a straight-ish bow (for the 1930s version, something similar to the Trento class perhaps?) be converted to the current one?


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Post subject: Re: Deveour class heavy cruiserPosted: January 2nd, 2013, 9:10 pm
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Yes, by that time they were replacing the boats with rafts.

The Brooklyns are a good example of cruiser refits during the war.

http://www.shipbucket.com/Real%20Design ... 201939.png
http://www.shipbucket.com/Real%20Design ... 201944.png

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