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KHT
Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: January 1st, 2013, 1:23 am
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Yup, seems to work just fine now.
I'm no expert on these ships, but I think she's really pretty. I would probably place the funnels a bit forward, but that's only for aesthetical reasons. :P


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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: January 1st, 2013, 2:28 pm
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I thought of that to, but loads of ork to move the funnels....

Of course she has typical paintschemes for colonial stations

above - Atlantic station
Below Pacific station
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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: January 2nd, 2013, 9:51 am
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The Mars Class looks great. The only question I have is, are the turrets too small? Other than that it reminds me of those German armoured cruisers, impressive beasts!

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: January 2nd, 2013, 11:35 am
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I am not sure - they are singles and about 5 pixel shorter than SMS Scharnhorsts twin and a bit larger than FN Dupoy de Lomes 19cm single.

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: January 2nd, 2013, 5:22 pm
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This is the RSwN armoered cruiser "HSwMS Axel von Fersen".

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Axel von Fersen
Carl-Gustaf Tessin
Madame de Stael

Sweden Armoured cruiser laid down 1893

Displacement:
8 022 t light; 8 397 t standard; 9 000 t normal; 9 483 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(419,95 ft / 393,70 ft) x 65,62 ft x (19,69 / 20,56 ft)
(128,00 m / 120,00 m) x 20,00 m x (6,00 / 6,27 m)

Armament:
2 - 8,27" / 210 mm 45,0 cal guns - 284,98lbs / 129,26kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1893 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 8,27" / 210 mm 45,0 cal guns - 284,98lbs / 129,26kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1893 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
2 raised mounts
8 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,07lbs / 49,02kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1893 Model
4 x Twin mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 - 4,13" / 105 mm 45,0 cal guns - 35,62lbs / 16,16kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1893 Model
8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 - 2,24" / 57,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 5,66lbs / 2,57kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1889 Model
8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 2 335 lbs / 1 059 kg
Main Torpedoes
1 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedo - 0,543 t total
submerged side tube

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3,94" / 100 mm 370,73 ft / 113,00 m 9,71 ft / 2,96 m
Ends: 1,77" / 45 mm 16,40 ft / 5,00 m 9,71 ft / 2,96 m
6,56 ft / 2,00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 1,77" / 45 mm 295,28 ft / 90,00 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 145 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5,98" / 152 mm 2,56" / 65 mm 5,98" / 152 mm
2nd: 5,98" / 152 mm 2,56" / 65 mm 5,98" / 152 mm
3rd: 3,94" / 100 mm 1,77" / 45 mm 1,77" / 45 mm
4th: 1,77" / 45 mm 1,77" / 45 mm 1,77" / 45 mm

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 1,18" / 30 mm
Forecastle: 0,39" / 10 mm Quarter deck: 0,39" / 10 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 5,98" / 152 mm, Aft 5,98" / 152 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 15 953 ihp / 11 901 Kw = 20,00 kts
Range 4 000nm at 10,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 086 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
461 - 600

Cost:
£0,877 million / $3,509 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 571 tons, 6,3 %
- Guns: 570 tons, 6,3 %
- Weapons: 1 tons, 0,0 %
Armour: 1 785 tons, 19,8 %
- Belts: 758 tons, 8,4 %
- Armament: 528 tons, 5,9 %
- Armour Deck: 387 tons, 4,3 %
- Conning Towers: 112 tons, 1,2 %
Machinery: 2 799 tons, 31,1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 798 tons, 31,1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 978 tons, 10,9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 70 tons, 0,8 %
- Hull below water: 20 tons
- Hull above water: 10 tons
- On freeboard deck: 20 tons
- Above deck: 20 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
6 779 lbs / 3 075 Kg = 24,0 x 8,3 " / 210 mm shells or 2,8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,42
Metacentric height 4,9 ft / 1,5 m
Roll period: 12,5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,31
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,34

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,619 / 0,625
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19,84 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 45
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -20,00 degrees
Stern overhang: -13,12 ft / -4,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 10,00 %, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
- Forward deck: 20,00 %, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
- Aft deck: 55,00 %, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
- Quarter deck: 15,00 %, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
- Average freeboard: 15,22 ft / 4,64 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 122,8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 118,2 %
Waterplane Area: 19 239 Square feet or 1 787 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 96 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 116 lbs/sq ft or 566 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,95
- Longitudinal: 1,73
- Overall: 1,00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: January 2nd, 2013, 5:26 pm
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Nice remake! I really like the romb formed arrangement of the main artillery! I must confess though, I think the old paint scheme looked better. :)


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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: January 2nd, 2013, 6:22 pm
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With white superstructure? I actually think but there is almost no superstructer left, just bridge, funnels and conning tower

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: January 27th, 2013, 7:16 pm
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Cruiser St. Bartolemey, built for mainly colonial policing and flagship. Many where involved in heavy fighting during early years of World War 2.

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Colony, Sweden light cruiser laid down 1924
St. Bartolemey, Cabo Corso, Gustavia; Madagaskar, Stralsund
Displacement:
6 953 t light; 7 214 t standard; 7 706 t normal; 8 100 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
528,22 ft / 524,93 ft x 52,49 ft (Bulges 59,06 ft) x 21,33 ft (normal load)
161,00 m / 160,00 m x 16,00 m (Bulges 18,00 m) x 6,50 m

Armament:
8 - 5,98" / 152 mm guns (3 mounts), 107,15lbs / 48,60kg shells, 1924 Model
Dual purpose guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
8 - 4,13" / 105 mm guns (6 mounts), 35,32lbs / 16,02kg shells, 1924 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 2,24" / 57,0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 5,65lbs / 2,56kg shells, 1924 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
12 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm guns (6x2 guns), 0,48lbs / 0,22kg shells, 1924 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 191 lbs / 540 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
6 - 21,0" / 533,4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 2,95" / 75 mm 328,08 ft / 100,00 m 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
Ends: 0,98" / 25 mm 49,21 ft / 15,00 m 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
147,64 ft / 45,00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 0,98" / 25 mm 393,70 ft / 120,00 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 96 % of normal length
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

- Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
0,39" / 10 mm 426,51 ft / 130,00 m 15,19 ft / 4,63 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2,95" / 75 mm 0,98" / 25 mm 2,95" / 75 mm
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - 0,98" / 25 mm
3rd: 0,20" / 5 mm - -

- Armour deck: 0,98" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 1,97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 62 173 shp / 46 381 Kw = 32,00 kts
Range 5 000nm at 14,00 kts (Bunkerage = 886 tons)

Complement:
410 - 534

Cost:
£2,025 million / $8,099 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 149 tons, 1,9 %
Armour: 1 452 tons, 18,8 %
- Belts: 817 tons, 10,6 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 94 tons, 1,2 %
- Armament: 202 tons, 2,6 %
- Armour Deck: 322 tons, 4,2 %
- Conning Tower: 17 tons, 0,2 %
Machinery: 2 048 tons, 26,6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 204 tons, 41,6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 753 tons, 9,8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 1,3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
3 460 lbs / 1 569 Kg = 32,3 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 0,8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,15
Metacentric height 2,5 ft / 0,8 m
Roll period: 15,8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 65 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,38
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,20

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0,408
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,89 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26,74 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26,25 ft / 8,00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 21,33 ft / 6,50 m
- Mid (50 %): 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 11,48 ft / 3,50 m (19,69 ft / 6,00 m before break)
- Stern: 11,48 ft / 3,50 m
- Average freeboard: 19,42 ft / 5,92 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 166,3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 140,1 %
Waterplane Area: 17 690 Square feet or 1 643 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 100 lbs/sq ft or 487 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,93
- Longitudinal: 1,99
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

3x2, 1x2 mainturrets
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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: January 27th, 2013, 7:55 pm
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Very impressive! :)


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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: January 28th, 2013, 7:06 pm
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Amazing, true beuty apart for one pink line aft and the seaplane that lost half a pontoon.


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