Shipbucket

Perhaps in speed but not in terms of firepower. The ship has two dual 8 inch guns, two dual 6 inch guns and eight dual five inch AAA guns.

And good old Clevland has 12x6 inch and 20x5 inch with a loot better firing zones. Still think you have a better firepower ?

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No but the Cleveland is not the enemy. German cruisers are. And German light cruisers would not stand up to this one as it is well protected against 8 inch shells.

And how good protection you have against 250 kg armour piercing bombs ?

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Not much. But the patrol cruiser is not meant to stop any ship, but relay their postition and if necessary, dalay them long enough for heavier units to respond.

Ehm... then you wouldn't want a cruiser with 203mm guns. If you want a patrool cruiser, I'd say you should look on a vessel of some 7500 tons, six 175mm guns, speed 28-30 knots, and moderate protection. It would also serve as a good escort ship.

The most successful weapon of Kriegsmarine was a Luftwaffe bomber. That's ironic but they sink more surface combatants that any german warship.

Your patrol cruiser is a very big and expensive picket ship, when he will meet enemy squadron he will be hunt down and sink before heavier unit's respond or just lose because enemy is faster. And tha't respond tactic is good only when you are a very close to your base or task force on patrol. The same work can do a destroyer or frigate.

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I didn`t say I`d actually go for it. It`s merely an idea. I too knew that it would`t really fit in.

Here`s the first submarine I`ve made for Norseland, indeed the first sub that I have made that has been posted here too. I don`t have a name for the class as of now. Don`t worry, it will come to me. Unless you guys want to help.

The sub was made in a time when the side Norseland could take in the last stages of peace in the late 30`s was pretty much either way. So Norseland needed new subs that could take on the greatest warships Europe could produce. Be it the KGV, or the Bismarck. So the sub was given 8 torpedo tubes in the front and 4 in the stern, and a big torpedo capacity. She would need enough range to be able to prowl the Atlantic for merchant shipping, and patrol between Norway and Iceland while still being able to keep up with the other subs of other navies. The engines were large and heavy, but powerful. Early service was plagued by mechanical unreliablity, but was fixed shortly after Norseland entered the war. Extra arnaments were a powerful 5 inch deck gun mounted fore of the conning tower and two 30mm guns two abaft the spotting platform. In 1940 an additional one was added in front of it. The results were a class of quite big submarines. Around the size of the Japanese Type C submarines. They were the largest class of submarines that Norseland launched until the launch of the first ballistic missile submarine in the 60`s.

Over all length is 106,15 meters long. The displacement is probably in, or around 2500-3500 tons.

The class in 1939:


The class in 1940:

Is it so bad you won`t sink low enough to even comment on it?