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Post subject: Re: RN Weapon and Radar SheetsPosted: November 20th, 2012, 12:47 am
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For some time, combined Sea Dart/Ikara launchers were suggested on new RN construction. I wonder if one or the other of the rather different Sea Dart launchers reflects this.


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Post subject: Re: RN Weapon and Radar SheetsPosted: November 20th, 2012, 6:30 am
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Thiel wrote:
Yeah, but I'm interested in the fully turreted one on the sheet, the one above the 12pdr. QF.

That reminds me, while we're asking questions, does anyone have a top-view of the 4in Mk V?
That is the same gun I've linked

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Post subject: Re: RN Weapon and Radar SheetsPosted: November 20th, 2012, 7:26 am
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Oops. Not sure how I made that mistake.
Thanks for the info though.

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Post subject: Re: RN Weapon and Radar SheetsPosted: November 21st, 2012, 3:34 pm
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There is a debate about the Sea Dart/ Ikara dual-purpose launcher over at Secretproject.com in relation to the 1962 Escort Cruiser design. It seems any work done was dropped early on in the design processes for the Sea Dart armed ships in favour of specialised seperate launchers. Personally I can't see Ikara working well on the Sea Dart laucnher without some serious mods.

Friedman's 'British Destroyers and Frigates' shows an interesting early single-arm launcher for smaller frigates which I might add later.

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Post subject: Re: RN Weapon and Radar SheetsPosted: November 21st, 2012, 3:56 pm
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if you are not fast on that single launcher Hood, I might do it first (but the copy of british destroyers and frigates I ordered is delayed a bit)
I have come across that DP launcher as well quite a few times, but no idea how it would look, so indeed I suppose there was never done any advanced design work done on her. the sizes of the missiles differed quite a bit too, not to speak about the reloaders (horizontal vs vertical, so I suppose 2 separated magazines, making the system take just as much space as the 2 separate) so it is relatively easy to understand why they did not go that way.

ow, and also an small note: I have found absolutely no external differences between S 1850M and SMART-L. I'd like to hear opinions on how to solve this: do we use the same drawing for both or must we modify one of the 2 to show difference?

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Post subject: Re: RN Weapon and Radar SheetsPosted: November 21st, 2012, 10:18 pm
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acelanceloet wrote:
ow, and also an small note: I have found absolutely no external differences between S 1850M and SMART-L. I'd like to hear opinions on how to solve this: do we use the same drawing for both or must we modify one of the 2 to show difference?
S 1850M is a deriative of SMART-L, and Thales has a lot to do in the development of it. When the exterior looks similar I think it should reflects here in SB too. I can't see any reason to invent different looks when they in real life looks the same ;)

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Post subject: Re: RN Weapon and Radar SheetsPosted: November 21st, 2012, 10:21 pm
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yeah, S 1850M was developed from SMART-L (actually, I think it could even be called an 'british licensed copy with different name' of the SMART-L, as for example the upgrade now done on the SMART-L is also possible on the S 1850 without any other development. so I think not only the looks are similar xD
so yeah, I suppose we should just use 1 drawing to show both, I have also heard that opinion from other points and I share it myself, but I await hoods opinion before final (as he is the one who should put it on this sheet xD)

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Post subject: Re: RN Weapon and Radar SheetsPosted: November 23rd, 2012, 9:17 am
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I think its best to just use the same radar. If they look the same then they should appear the same.

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Post subject: Re: RN Weapon and Radar SheetsPosted: November 24th, 2012, 4:17 pm
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Hood wrote:
I think its best to just use the same radar. If they look the same then they should appear the same.
then for the next update, you can take the SMART-L from the dutch parts sheet ;) in the meantime, I will try to check if that one is 100% accurate, but I suppose it is.

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Post subject: Re: RN Weapon and Radar SheetsPosted: January 5th, 2013, 7:53 pm
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I couldn't find any drawings of a quad 2 pdr. pom-pom for my HMS Howe drawing, so I've drew it my self :D
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