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Carnac
Post subject: Re: Artist Permission RequestPosted: October 24th, 2012, 7:16 pm
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If you want to message him privately you can go to his profile (use the search in the upper right) and click 'Private Message'.

Also, imgur.com I find to be both fast and satisfactory, and doesn't require an account.

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Post subject: Re: Artist Permission RequestPosted: October 24th, 2012, 7:54 pm
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I'm not criticizing your status as a hobbyist, but don't look down on something that provides a livelihood and value to many people.
Was not 'looking down' on anything, just pointing out that there's a difference between a hobby site like Shipbucket and a commercial firm that produces ship drawings for sale.
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The purpose of art is to be seen. Don't you want your drawings, and Shipbucket, to have a wider audience?
Frankly we have a wide enough audience and I don't think publication in some war-games will really be that big of a publicity boost.
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The simple answer to the common ownership problem is for CoA's payment (that's with a small "p") to be split between the artist and Shipbucket. Somebody's paying server fees. This would help.
From my end, it's going to be a "no" regardless of how you slice it. I just can't see this going anywhere that's going to be good for us.
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And where is Novice? How often does he visit the site?
Don't believe he reads this section, could try PMing him on the side.

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LLBond
Post subject: Re: Artist Permission RequestPosted: October 24th, 2012, 7:59 pm
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All right, I've set up a DropBox account. I'm going to provide the pages both ways, in case one doesn't work. The link to the folder is:

http://www.dropbox.com/home/Dummy%20BW%20pages

The first page is the existing draft, with an illustration taken from Dr. Friedman's U.S. Cruisers, an Illustrated History. Although Dr. Friedman's book is a copyrighted work, the drawing's original source was the US Navy, which put the drawing in the public domain. But I credit Friedman's bok (which is excellent, by the way) as the immediate source.

[ img ]

The second is what the page would look like with the shipbucket drawing. Because of scaling, the name in the upper right has become unreadable, but even if it was legible, it's customary to include the rights holder's name in the lower right, along with caption. The "Novice via Shipbucket" is just a placeholder, and can obviously be any text that Novice wants, for example, his name.

[ img ]

All other things being equal, the scale at the top and aircraft are almost too small to be useful, but I've left them in because of Shipbucket's publication standards.

This is one of about twenty-five illustrations in the 128-page booklet. There are also about 25 setup diagrams, but our own artist is preparing those.

The scenario is from a hypothetical campaign, one of four in the supplement. This one starts in 1939 and assumes that the U.S. and Japan go to war following the Panay incident. For those not familiar with wargames, the scenario provides the information each side needs to fight the battle. Annexes at the end provide the statistics for the ship, planes, and weapons the players use.

I hope this sample is useful. Please as any questions you like about the Bywater's War, Command at Sea, or Clash of Arms.


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Carnac
Post subject: Re: Artist Permission RequestPosted: October 24th, 2012, 8:00 pm
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None of those are visible and the links lead to a log-in page.

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Post subject: Re: Artist Permission RequestPosted: October 24th, 2012, 8:02 pm
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You need to place any documents that you'd like to be public inside the Public dropbox folder. Then you can right click > Dropbox > Copy public link on each image to post here.

The war-game supplement sounds interesting but again, I just don't think we really need to be involved in this.

BTW: posting the image in question here for reference (I see planes and minor systems I drew):

[ img ]

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Post subject: Re: Artist Permission RequestPosted: October 24th, 2012, 8:39 pm
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Deepest apologies for the confusion. All right, let's try this again.

The first version - the draft as it is now: [ img ]

The second version, with the Shipbucket drawing: [ img ]


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Post subject: Re: Artist Permission RequestPosted: October 24th, 2012, 8:41 pm
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A little off topic, but why did anyone think brining a carrier into gun range was a good idea?

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Post subject: Re: Artist Permission RequestPosted: October 24th, 2012, 8:41 pm
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PDFs can't be embedded as images. What you want here is the URL tag. :)

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Post subject: Re: Artist Permission RequestPosted: October 24th, 2012, 8:53 pm
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LLBond wrote:
Deepest apologies for the confusion. All right, let's try this again.
Don't worry, this at least is an issue we're used to dealing with

Like Tim said you need to use the URL tags.
Like so:
[url]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7614414/Dummy%20BW%20pages/BW%20Draft%20p44_2.pdf[/url]

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Post subject: Re: Artist Permission RequestPosted: October 24th, 2012, 11:52 pm
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A little off topic, but why did anyone think brining a carrier into gun range was a good idea?
One of the purposes of the scenario is to allow players to test the concept and see whether it works. The US Navy was actually going to build these things, but in a rare fit of sanity, gave it up. The line drawing in Friedman is from the builder's plans.


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