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Post subject: Re: Small coastal combattants of the Polish Navy and Coast GPosted: September 29th, 2012, 5:29 am
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Outstanding! Your small crafts are always a pleasure to look at.

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Post subject: Re: Small coastal combattants of the Polish Navy and Coast GPosted: September 29th, 2012, 7:00 am
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Thank You Gentlemen! I'm happy You liked them. :)


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Post subject: Re: Small coastal combattants of the Polish Navy and Coast GPosted: September 29th, 2012, 1:24 pm
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Nice updates. As ever drawn very well. Comparing these to Mconrads which must have been done some time ago shows the strides taken in detailing and colouring. Even so the basic drawings underlying them look almost identical to each other, the lesson is, while the new parts look good and make a difference in how well polished the final product is, the basic SB concept of a sound ship base drawing still holds good today and updating should only be attempted at peril if the original is still very good.
[Note: I'm not in any way implying that these are copies as the base ships look different and have different detailing on the superstructures and are 100% original from each other, even so its amazing how two excellent artists can come up with equally good drawings of the same ship. For my money, eswube's is the better version by virtue of its better parts and detailing.]

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Post subject: Re: Small coastal combattants of the Polish Navy and Coast GPosted: October 1st, 2012, 7:13 am
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Thank You Hood. :)


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Post subject: Re: Small coastal combattants of the Polish Navy and Coast GPosted: October 22nd, 2012, 11:30 am
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Below is the next batch of drawings, this time showing small patrol boats of the Coast Guard that entered service since 2000. Initially I wasn't going to included them as yet due to limited amount of sources, but recently I found some new materials and decided to give it a try. I must say, however, that I'm not quite satisfied with them. But perhaps I'm not the best judge.

First is the small patrol boat (RHIB) of the Damen SAR-1500 type, two of which were build in Gdańsk and entered service in 2000 with pennant numbers SG-211 and SG-212.

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Next is small hovercraft Griffon 2000TD, two of which were commissioned in 2006 (SG-411 and SG-412) for use on Vistula Lagoon.

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Year later, in 2007, Coast Guard obtained from Swedish Dockstavarvet four IC-16M boats (SG-213 to SG-216) derived from succesful CB-90 design.

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Four patrol RHIB's of the Parker 900 Baltic Cabin type entered service in 2009 (SG-044 to SG-047).

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In 2011 Morski Oddział Straży Granicznej (Maritime Detachment of the Border Guard) was strenghtened with the acquisition of two Patrol 240 Baltic boats built by Estonian shipyard Baltic Workboats AS.

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Post subject: Re: Small coastal combattants of the Polish Navy and Coast GPosted: October 22nd, 2012, 12:51 pm
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Well eswube ... you reach the end of your work ? Every small boat in history of Navy and Cost Guard we can find here ?

Good work lad, bloody good work. :D

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Post subject: Re: Small coastal combattants of the Polish Navy and Coast GPosted: October 22nd, 2012, 1:21 pm
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Thanks Rhade. :D

But...
no, not quite the end - almost, but not quite. Some time ago Gollevainen suggested that I redraw ORP Kaszub (Pr.620) and of course I will be happy to do so.
Besides, unfortunately not "every small boat" can be found here. First of all, in the initial post-war years there were numerous small boats and launches, usually less than 10 meters long, about which almost nothing is known. Then there are boats - mostly riverine - used by Border Troops in the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s - but these would be for the most part too small to meaningfully draw (like KR-70 type boats that were 4,5 meters long - that's 30 pixels - practically you won't see anything in that scale), and there are various RHIBs and small launches used by todays Coast Guard (again, usually less than 10 meters long).

And there is one ship I would like to add here one day, but I have strong doubts if it will be even possible: small training submarine chaser ORP Bitny built in 1953 on the unfinished hull of the German riverine boat Zerlegbares Polizei-Kampfboot. That was an interestnig design - a kind of "modular ship" that was built in several sections that could be unscrewed for land transport into 6 sections. Germans planned to build 250 of them, ordered 50, managed to build 12 and Poland's post-war ORP Bitny was 13th.
Very little is known about the original design and even less about Bitny, so for a time being it won't be done.

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And by the way - that this thread is nearing to an end doesn't mean that I don't have further plans: ;)

http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewto ... f=5&t=3525

Next will be landing ships of the Polish Navy, and then perhaps - but just perhaps - I'll try to do training and hydrographical ships, but that's just a possibility for now.


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Rhade
Post subject: Re: Small coastal combattants of the Polish Navy and Coast GPosted: October 22nd, 2012, 4:43 pm
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Czernicki is waiting for you lad ... ;)

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Post subject: Re: Small coastal combattants of the Polish Navy and Coast GPosted: October 22nd, 2012, 6:03 pm
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eswube wrote:
I must say, however, that I'm not quite satisfied with them. But perhaps I'm not the best judge.
Given the size of these vessels you shouldn't be so hard on yourself. A lot of the detail would be lost through scaling translation anyway.


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Post subject: Re: Small coastal combattants of the Polish Navy and Coast GPosted: October 22nd, 2012, 8:27 pm
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Rhade - Czernicki will crown the "landing ships thread". :)

Klagldsf - Thank You. :) I know that, but still... ;)


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