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KHT
Post subject: Re: A Danish AUPosted: October 5th, 2012, 3:06 pm
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It is a very pretty ship! I can't help noticing though that some things does not line up between the side and top view. The A turret is placed far aft on the top view, compared to it's position in the side view. The "Plate edge"(I don't know what to call it, since it seems to small for a blast shield) around the B mount looks a bit short on the top view as well.


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Thiel
Post subject: Re: A Danish AUPosted: October 5th, 2012, 3:21 pm
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Post subject: Re: A Danish AUPosted: October 5th, 2012, 3:33 pm
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Very handsome looking cruisers. I personally would prefer a lower bridge structure as the current one from the side looks a tad too tall and tower like but that's just my personal opinion. The design itself looks fine. Those inner torpedo tubes are going to be awful close to those lifeboats when swung out in readiness for battle stations however which is a possible worry.

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Post subject: Re: A Danish AUPosted: October 5th, 2012, 3:47 pm
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Very nice design. Looking forward to see more additions to this thread. :)


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Thiel
Post subject: Re: A Danish AUPosted: October 5th, 2012, 3:51 pm
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denodon wrote:
Those inner torpedo tubes are going to be awful close to those lifeboats when swung out in readiness for battle stations however which is a possible worry.
I checked that when I drew them and it's not really a problem. In order for the inner torpedo tube to clear the deck the launcher has to be swung out 20 degrees, at which point it'll clear the boats by some two feet. Plus the boats are carried higher than the tubes.
The tubes themselves never get anywhere near the boats.

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Post subject: Re: A Danish AUPosted: October 5th, 2012, 4:29 pm
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Alright that makes sense. From the drawing its hard to determine the swing out angle so I couldn't judge the clearance between them and the boats. The height of them should help them be kept clear from any possible launch debris too.

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Post subject: Re: A Danish AUPosted: October 5th, 2012, 5:16 pm
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Other critiques apart, I like this design, not least because it isn't a monster battleship, and it actually ;looks realistic :)


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Post subject: Re: A Danish AUPosted: October 5th, 2012, 7:07 pm
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It's very handsome, balanced, and simply told a most believable ship!

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Post subject: Re: A Danish AUPosted: April 22nd, 2013, 9:13 am
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Work has begun on a new cruiser.
Cruiser 1931, Denmark Light Cruiser laid down 1931

Displacement:
	5.081 t light; 5.280 t standard; 5.748 t normal; 6.123 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
	(505,43 ft / 498,03 ft) x 45,60 ft x (16,40 / 17,24 ft)
	(154,05 m / 151,80 m) x 13,90 m  x (5,00 / 5,25 m)

Armament:
      8 - 5,98" / 152 mm 55,0 cal guns - 115,65lbs / 52,46kg shells, 150 per gun
	  Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1930 Model
	  4 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
		2 raised mounts
      4 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,98lbs / 5,89kg shells, 200 per gun
	  Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1931 Model
	  4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
		2 raised mounts
      4 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm 60,0 cal guns - 0,26lbs / 0,12kg shells, 3.000 per gun
	  Machine guns in deck mounts, 1931 Model
	  4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
		4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 978 lbs / 444 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      8 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 6,60 ft / 2,01 m torpedoes - 0,554 t each, 4,435 t total
	In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:		Width (max)	Length (avg)		Height (avg)
	Main:	2,36" / 60 mm	286,98 ft / 87,47 m	8,10 ft / 2,47 m
	Ends:	1,18" / 30 mm	110,50 ft / 33,68 m	8,10 ft / 2,47 m
	  100,56 ft / 30,65 m Unarmoured ends
	Upper:	1,18" / 30 mm	292,98 ft / 89,30 m	8,01 ft / 2,44 m
	  Main Belt covers 89 % of normal length
	  Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Gun armour:	Face (max)	Other gunhouse (avg)	Barbette/hoist (max)
	Main:	1,57" / 40 mm	0,98" / 25 mm		0,98" / 25 mm

   - Box over machinery & magazines:
	1,57" / 40 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 2,36" / 60 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
	Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, 
	Geared drive, 2 shafts, 49.889 shp / 37.217 Kw = 30,00 kts
	Range 5.000nm at 15,00 kts
	Bunker at max displacement = 842 tons

Complement:
	329 - 429

Cost:
	£2,166 million / $8,664 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
	Armament: 278 tons, 4,8 %
	   - Guns: 269 tons, 4,7 %
	   - Weapons: 9 tons, 0,2 %
	Armour: 986 tons, 17,2 %
	   - Belts: 382 tons, 6,6 %
	   - Armament: 79 tons, 1,4 %
	   - Armour Deck: 509 tons, 8,9 %
	   - Conning Tower: 16 tons, 0,3 %
	Machinery: 1.492 tons, 26,0 %
	Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.245 tons, 39,1 %
	Fuel, ammunition & stores: 667 tons, 11,6 %
	Miscellaneous weights: 80 tons, 1,4 %
	   - Hull below water: 20 tons
	   - Hull above water: 20 tons
	   - On freeboard deck: 20 tons
	   - Above deck: 20 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
	Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
	  6.698 lbs / 3.038 Kg = 62,5 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 2,6 torpedoes
	Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,04
	Metacentric height 1,6 ft / 0,5 m
	Roll period: 14,9 seconds
	Steadiness	- As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 65 %
			- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,84
	Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,29

Hull form characteristics:
	Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
	  a normal bow and a cruiser stern
	Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,540 / 0,547
	Length to Beam Ratio: 10,92 : 1
	'Natural speed' for length: 22,32 kts
	Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
	Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
	Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 8,00 degrees
	Stern overhang: 3,94 ft / 1,20 m
	Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
				Fore end,	 Aft end
	   - Forecastle:	22,70 %,  24,61 ft / 7,50 m,  22,64 ft / 6,90 m
	   - Forward deck:	30,00 %,  22,64 ft / 6,90 m,  21,33 ft / 6,50 m
	   - Aft deck:	26,30 %,  13,78 ft / 4,20 m,  13,78 ft / 4,20 m
	   - Quarter deck:	21,00 %,  13,78 ft / 4,20 m,  13,78 ft / 4,20 m
	   - Average freeboard:		18,43 ft / 5,62 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
	Space	- Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 102,7 %
		- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 163,8 %
	Waterplane Area: 15.703 Square feet or 1.459 Square metres
	Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
	Structure weight / hull surface area: 83 lbs/sq ft or 407 Kg/sq metre
	Hull strength (Relative):
		- Cross-sectional: 0,94
		- Longitudinal: 1,92
		- Overall: 1,01
	Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
	Excellent accommodation and workspace room
	Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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Post subject: Re: A Danish AUPosted: April 22nd, 2013, 9:54 am
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A nice design, but a real tinclad...


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