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Psilander
Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: September 23rd, 2012, 8:45 am
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KHT wrote:
Wow... she sure looks different than her earlier incarnations... I think she looks a bit like a very remade Fylgia in some strange way. A very interesting ship, I'd say.
Yes, I reworked her hard, but still tried to keep with the original springsharp calculation. You are quite right regarding Fylgia - I use some parts of her bridge to make this ships bridge.

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asbuilt in 1930
10 Hawker Osprey
2 Consolidated Admirals

1942 (outbreak of WW2)

8x Grumman J2F Duck
2x Consolidated Catalinas

1950 (post war)
6x Saunders Roe SR.A1 fighters
6x SAAB B17S

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: September 23rd, 2012, 8:55 am
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A very interesting concept. The use of Saro SR.A1 fighters is pretty cool too! That would make her as effective as a light carrier in terms of fleet CAP, especially overseas.

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: September 23rd, 2012, 10:03 am
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Very interesting.
I see that You were apparently allowed not just non-SB colouring/shading style but also non-SB template style? ;)


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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: September 23rd, 2012, 11:55 am
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Regarding the template, I use the same template I will start use on my webpage. My plan is to upload all ships i shipbucket scale and remake all datapages for the ships.

Regarding my shading - I has never been an issue on Shipbucket during all those years I've been here, until now?!?

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: September 23rd, 2012, 11:57 am
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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: September 23rd, 2012, 12:16 pm
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Psilander. I know You're have different shading style and always had. :) I just remarked that now You suddenly seem to have also different template style, that's all. ;)


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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: September 23rd, 2012, 3:12 pm
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It is not your'e fault, I have just noticed it, that there seems to be more comments regarding shading. I am more curios to discuss the ships - if they are plausable and tactically sound constructions.

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: October 6th, 2012, 11:00 am
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Some things:
1. A question. I am remaking my carriers, and want to draw top views. any tips from you arrier experts.

2. Found this russian forum discussing my site. quite fun event though I had to use google translate to understand the discussion.... they are useing my old drawings.

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: October 6th, 2012, 11:55 am
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2. Found this russian forum discussing my site. quite fun event though I had to use google translate to understand the discussion.... they are useing my old drawings.
I've have had similar experiences with my works, specially when I've been messing around with soviet newer-where stuff. Once they refered me as the "enemy" ;) and sometimes someone others artist impression of never-where ships included stuff that were clearly my own desings from Shipbucket.

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: October 8th, 2012, 5:16 pm
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The HMS Hedvig Eleonora, the RSwN first true aircraftcarrier. She as laid down as a luxury liner for the Swedish-America Line in 1928 but when the depression struck the company couldn't afford her so she was bought by the navy on the slips.

The navy had wanted a carrier for long and now they got the chance to build one to practice on before ordering a true carrier. She as used for the first five years a training carrier, working up diffrent aircraft and tactics. In 1938 she got her first true airwing. She served most of her active time in the pacific war, before being scuttle after several hits by kamikazes at battle of Okinawa.

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Hedvig Eleonora, Sweden Carrier laid down 1926 (Engine 1928)

Displacement:
25 989 t light; 26 810 t standard; 29 979 t normal; 32 514 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
656,17 ft / 656,17 ft x 85,30 ft (Bulges 98,43 ft) x 26,25 ft (normal load)
200,00 m / 200,00 m x 26,00 m (Bulges 30,00 m) x 8,00 m

Armament:
8 - 4,13" / 105 mm guns (4x2 guns), 35,32lbs / 16,02kg shells, 1924 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
22 - 2,24" / 57,0 mm guns in twin mounts, 5,65lbs / 2,56kg shells, 1918 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread,
24 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm guns (12x2 guns), 0,48lbs / 0,22kg shells, 1926 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 360 lbs / 163 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 1 000

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1,97" / 50 mm 426,51 ft / 130,00 m 11,08 ft / 3,38 m
Ends: 0,98" / 25 mm 229,64 ft / 69,99 m 11,08 ft / 3,38 m
Upper: 0,98" / 25 mm 426,51 ft / 130,00 m 8,00 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

- Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
0,39" / 10 mm 426,51 ft / 130,00 m 25,59 ft / 7,80 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,79" / 20 mm 0,20" / 5 mm 0,98" / 25 mm
2nd: 0,20" / 5 mm - -
3rd: 0,20" / 5 mm - -

- Armour deck: 0,39" / 10 mm, Conning tower: 1,97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 104 760 shp / 78 151 Kw = 28,00 kts
Range 14 500nm at 14,00 kts (Bunkerage = 5 704 tons)

Complement:
1 138 - 1 480

Cost:
£4,850 million / $19,401 million
Airwing
1938
16x J8 Grumman F3F "Flying Barrel"
12x T2 Martin TB4M
12x B4 Hawker Hart

1942
12xJ12 Gloster F5/34 "Gladan"
8x J14 Westland Whirlwind long range fighters
12x T4 Douglas Devestator
12x B5 Northrop Y17

1945
16x J23 Grumman F6F Hellcat
8x J14 Westland Whirlwind long range fighters
12x B17, SAAB 17 bombers
12x T17 SAAB 17 Torpedobombers

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