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Well, if Mitch starts any more nonsense like this when he comes back (as I can assure you he will... no matter how much he hates and rages on me, he still comes back...), I can guarantee I will get rid of him very quickly.

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USN components, camouflage colors, & reference links (World War II only)

the quiet before the storm.

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Supreme Commander of the Astrofleets

Let's hope not. I have some updates to post, and announcements to make. But first:





Announcement:

About this whole mess. As Gollevainen pointed out earlier, it's very bad form to redraw a ship without consulting the original artist. Normally, you point out the mistakes to the original artist, and let him work on it. This prevents a lot of needless work.

Now, I rejoined the forum just as Mitch posted his first, very early WIP. And I voiced my objections. There was no need to go over all the work again. Contary to my wishes, and against common courtesy, Mitch continued with his work anyway. Cue the drawing war that this thread became.
Did the drawing become better? Yes. Was it worth the aggro? No. I'd like to apologise to the Mods. It takes two to tango, and I was partially to blame for their aggravation.

In posting these drawings, I think that they are the best that is to be done with the material available. Heck, the lining on the hull might be overdoing it. However, these are my drawings, evolutions of the original as still on the shipbucket homepage. I'm asking everyone, including Mitch (And I'll see to it that this reaches him) that IF you have any corrections, point them out to me, or at least make them on these drawings. I'm willing and able to defend my choises on these, and (as ace found out when I threw a shitstorm about the APAR) am utterly confident in my sizings and shaping of the ship. Please do not use any other drawings to make corrections on/for. The last thing this board needs is more useless rework of another guys work.

Thus spoke the original artist.

Edit: Have I never done this? Actually, I have. Once by simply not looking closely enough, and once because I had no idea who the original artist was. The first was the Victoria SSK, by Darth Panda. I looked under Great Britain for the Upholder SSK, and didn't find it there. Frantic drawing ensued, and it came out perfectly. Imagine my surprise when it turned out that DP had put the ship under Canada as the Victoria class SSK... He was gallant about it, and we reached an agreement on which one was better
The next one was another sub, by TODG, it was the (closely related) Zwaardvis and Walrus class. I couldn't contact the artist. Never heard of the name either, and since the originals had very little relation to the real shape of the boats I just redrew em. Color me surprised that it was E2R who had done the originals. He wasn't much pleased, and rightly so.

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Would you please not eat my gun...

Well, it looks nice to me. I've not really studied it enough to figure out all of the changes.

They look awsome! dont touch them any more thats what i would say

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Vi coactus
Door geweld gedwongen
Forced by violence
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Caption signing treaty with England by Johan de Witt

[Working List]
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Thanks, I hope it won't be needed either. There's a lot of hours gone into this.
Contrast between the one in the archive and the new one:



You can't see it immediately, but there's very little of that superstructure untouched.

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Would you please not eat my gun...

Ah, I see more of the changes now. Thanks.

This was my latest update from a week ago (with front and rear view)
Do what you want with it, because i aint got time for it the upcoming 4 weeks.
Or wait for me to return
I got 4 weeks off then.

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Fryssian AU with Lt.Maverick 114
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=9802&p=193331#p193331

Embarked on: HNLMS Karel Doorman A833
To do list:
-Zeven Provincien class cruiser
-Joint support ship all sides
-F124 Sachsen class frigate
-F125 Baden-Württemberg class frigate
-Clemencau class aircraft carrier
-Zeven provincien class frigate
-Poolster class AOR
-Amsterdam class AOR
-Minas Gerais aircraft carrier

Can at least one of the drawing use the new lynx helicopter? NH90 is not operational for some foreseeable time.

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Worklist:
- Victorian Navy - LINK
- ROC/Taiwan - 中華民國空軍 / 陸軍航特部 / 海軍航空兵 - LINK
- RHKAAF / HKGFS - 皇家香港輔助空軍 / 政府飛行服務隊
- Gunbucket - LINK

天滅中共全黨死清光!

Your wish is my command. The Evertsen now hosts a Lynx.

Also, apparently some people just can't let enough be enough.

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Would you please not eat my gun...