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SrGopher
Post subject: Re: The Centennial AUPosted: January 2nd, 2012, 11:38 pm
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I think I'll be fine with the fighters for now, but thanks Blackbuck. I'm in the process of making Centennial aircraft, although I am keeping the Vought and Douglas aircraft.
@klagldsf, I chose the P-72 because of the greater ability as an interceptor than the F8F thanks to the optional armament of having the 4 37mm cannons. These aren't certainly finished, because as stated above, I'm working on AU aircraft.
@Biancini1995, Not anytime soon, but I may in the future.

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Post subject: Re: The Centennial AUPosted: January 3rd, 2012, 2:20 am
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Then you might find this option enticing. With 6 20 mm cannon 4 37 mm cannon isn't outside the realm of possibility, or you might find that armament sufficient.


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Post subject: Re: The Centennial AUPosted: January 9th, 2012, 2:05 am
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Thanks, I think I will add that instead of the P-72.

In order to consolidate the drawings I posted for this in the Beginner's Section, here's the first official ship I drew for this AU:
Designed in conjunction with the United States of the Pacific and the United States of America, the Diver class were made in 1945-47, itself a hybrid of captured German and American technology in a Centennial-designed hull optimizing both surface and underwater speed and efficiency. Heavily armed, each vessel had an American 5"/25 wet mount, two clip-fed 40mm Bofors and a single 20mm Oerlikon. A bank of 12 torpedoes plus 10 reloads gave each ship a good heavy-hitting armament for long patrol missions. Large fuel tanks allowed for longer patrols than previous submarines. The snorkel captured from a beached German sub in the Canary Islands provided a great deal of time underwater. The Centennial Navy ordered 52 vessels, plus another 15 ordered by the Pacifican Navy. 47 were built in the USP and another 61 were built in the USA. Only 7 in total were sunk between the vessels of all three nations.
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And this is the County class AA cruiser. It was designed in parallel with the Troy class carriers to provide a heavier AA barrage than the 4" guns mounted on the Troy. Originally, there were 5 ships planned. In 1944, an additional 5 were ordered to complement the Cairo class carriers that were to be commissioned. Each ship was ruggedly designed with the best equipment available (Forgive me not including radar until I figure out the best ones to use) in Centennia. Each ship was armed with 3 twin quick-firing dual-purpose 6"/50 guns, augmented by 8 twin automatic 3"/50s, 16 belt-fed 40mm cannons, and 15 20mm belt-fed cannons in turrets. An additional swivel-mounted 6 20mm cannons were provided for point defense and as back-up AA weapons.

The first 5 ships saw stellar careers. Three were assigned duty in the Centennial Pacific Fleet, with the other two being assigned to the woefully underpowered Pacifican Navy. One of the latter ships, the Berkshire County, was sunk after having taken 3 torpedoes in rapid succession off of Midway. The others all took a great deal of damage, although none were sunk. The later 5 vessels were assigned duty in the Atlantic to bolster the force of old cruisers the Centennial Navy had there. While operating off of France, the CNS Rotterdam County was disabled by Stukas and finished off by a pair of U-boats. Three of the Atlantic units were then assigned duty in the Mediterranean with a handful of other ships tasked with raiding the Axis-controlled sea. Two of them, the Columbia County and the Cornwallis County, were damaged to the point of having to be scuttled within the course of 2 weeks of each other. Both fell victim to Italian carrier aircraft flying from the Roma.

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So any critiques on the Cairo, Diver or County class vessels would be appreciated.

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Post subject: Re: The Centennial AUPosted: January 9th, 2012, 2:32 am
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The props are strange for me...

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Post subject: Re: The Centennial AUPosted: January 9th, 2012, 2:58 am
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The County is looking good so far. I like your custom AU weapons. Maybe raise the bridge roof a bit? Also, there is a black line hovering below the credits on the County, and a pink one on th upper left corner of the Cairo.

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Post subject: Re: The Centennial AUPosted: February 26th, 2012, 3:45 am
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Well, the County class nay not be included in this part of the AU anymore. But, over the past few months, I've been working on a few designs for MTBs, a hypothetical BB to counter the Yamato and other super-BBs from other nations, Amphibious Assault carriers (compete with AU tiltrotors based on US designs), and the most intense design being an occupation/humanitarian/scout ship (All WWII era). The others aren't quite ready for showing, but here is the MTB-19, based heavily on the Fairmile boats combined with PT boats and E-boats. Standard on each MTB is enough space to carry roughly one and a half tons of extra equipment, fuel or supplies. All boats also come standard with 3 20mm guns forward, and a single aft, as well as a modular pod on the stern, carrying a pair of smoke generators and flare launchers (Or mini versions of the starshells of the time). Additional weapons can be added as per choice of the crew.
1. Base design. Used for long patrol missions and general light combat duty. Armed with three forward-facing 20mm cannons and one each 20mm and 40mm [Boffin] cannons facing the stern.
2. Attack Boat. Armed with four torpedoes and an additional belt fed 37mm cannon on the bow. Meant for short range attacks, but torpedoes can be replaced for external fuel tanks, extending range at the expense of firepower.
3. ASW Boat. Armed with a pair of depth charge throwers, lower-grade roll-off depth charges on two racks off the stern, and a pair of sextuple Hedgehog spigot launchers.
4. VIP Transport. Long-ranged boat with accommodations for up to 6 VIPs, with slightly reduced armament from the Base design.
5. High Speed Transport. Armament reduced to allow more weight. Used to resupply other boats or ships with ammunition and/or rations, with the addition of a cargo hatch and two-half ton cranes.
6. High Speed Transport Top View. Show the two half-ton cranes mounted on the decks, and small cargo hatch.
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I'm working on a Gunboat version, featuring a Boffin, an AU belt fed 40mm gun, and additional lighter guns. I'm also looking into making a fast minelayer like like what was planned with the PT Boats.

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Post subject: Re: The Centennial AUPosted: June 25th, 2012, 11:10 pm
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Well, with school having wound down, and summer already here, I decided that it would be a good time to continue the Centennial AU, and maybe get around to the United States of the Pacific AU if I get a chance. So finally, with a new PC, I got Springsharp up and running. I went into some prewar designs and strategies, all based on Centennia attempting to return to a "neutral" international state, but returning to maintaining a strong offensive capability.

After the armistice, Centennia still had a great number of ships being built. Many destroyers were sold off to South American navies trying to catch up to the international standards of the time. Centennia was exempt from the resulting Washington Naval Treaty, which put limits on the tonnage and caliber of the great navies of the world (These are broken early on in this AU). Centennial propaganda and patriotism from the war wore off quickly as life returned to peacetime industry. The Army was quickly streamlined relegated to Home Guard duty, with the Navy and Air Force returning from potent offensive forces to almost completely dedicated defensive forces. For a decade, the only ships being built for the Centennial Navy were economical ships that could be built in quantity, all to serve as escorts for merchant vessels. The Navy decommissioned all but 5 capital ships and 8 cruisers (but kept 7 of the Winchester/New Rotterdams and 12 cruisers in mothballs). Conroy remained the hub of Naval activity, and constant expansion projects helped increase trade capacity, namely with the factories of the United States of America and Britain. Small sectors of Conroy were leased to these two nations, allowing collaborations in military tactics and designs. The early 30's were unchanged for Centennia even as the global economy began to dive. However, by the mid-1930's, the nation began to feel the effects of slow trade. As Japan began its conquests in the Far East, the Centennial assets at Formosa, Indonesia, Hong Kong, and the Philippines came under threat. The Army was mobilized, as 12 Battalions prepared for deployment to the Pacific to augment the 4 Battalions of Centennial Marines already stationed there. Within a week, the Army and Navy had reached the conclusion that in order to move the battalions quickly, standard Navy transports were too slow, old, and could carry too few troops at a time. Japanese forces had reached resources in China that were vital to the operation of the Centennial outposts in Formosa and Hong Kong. The Navy commissioned the construction of 3 large cruisers and 3 medium, armored carriers, as well as 8 light cruisers and two-dozen destroyers in order to modernize and globalize the capability of the fleet. Along with them, 3 new transports were designed, all optimized for the possibility of having to assault an area with limited port facilities. For assaulting an area with port facilities, the Navy purchased the incomplete SS Bretagne, whose construction had been stalled just weeks before being fitted out for her commissioning into the Compagnie Generale Transatlantique as the larger sister to the SS Normandie. They also commissioned the building of a similar vessel, except with a central cargo space and a pair of loading ramps built into each side of the hull. Centennia's projects were almost all completed by the beginning of hostilities between Germany and the United Kingdom and France. The Army and Air Force were similarly modernized to achieve a strong offensive push when needed. But even with the offensive fleet, Centennia opted to remain neutral with the USP and USA. The Navy was then divided into two groups. The Global Squadron took on control of the capital ships, cruisers, and vessels associated with Centennia's ability to project its power on foreign lands and protect distant Centennial interests and convoys. The Littoral Squadron took on the task of protecting and controlling the waters within a 400 mile radius of Centennia, as well as providing transports for the Army and Marines during expeditionary operations. Centennia became the hub of the Battle of the Atlantic during the war. It was also hit by many airstrikes from German and Vichy carriers during the height of the war. Centennia also provided great aid in fending off Japanese attacks in the USP, and later participated in the drive to liberate the Pacific. During the war, Centennia was productive in its shipbuilding industry, not only producing a sizable number of vessels, but in building some of the most powerful vessels in the world, as well as coming up with plausible designs for even more ships. It also made great advances in aviation technology. The US-based Platt-LePage aviation developers found great success with Centennial funding, creating and monopolizing the production of an entirely new type of aircraft. Centennia proved to be a powerhouse in the fight against both Japan and Germany, and it provided invaluable resources in order the success of the Allies during the war finally many years later.

Anyway, I have some Springsharp files ready for that prewar escort fleet. Those will be up at a later date.

But for now, All I've had time to do is the revolutionary aircraft by Platt-LePage:
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I'm open to suggestions for a new name...

TV-1A ___________:
Capacity:
14 Troops
~2.5 tons
Speed:
176 mph

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Post subject: Re: The Centennial AUPosted: June 25th, 2012, 11:23 pm
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Great to see this AU back alive I really enjoyed it
just one quick question when does the VT-1 enter service

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Post subject: Re: The Centennial AUPosted: June 25th, 2012, 11:25 pm
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were are the engines? you are not gonna tell me that those are in those wing pods, as that will mean that you will never be able to lift off vertically unless that plane is made from.... say... cardboard?

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Post subject: Re: The Centennial AUPosted: June 25th, 2012, 11:33 pm
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Trojan wrote:
Great to see this AU back alive I really enjoyed it
just one quick question when does the VT-1 enter service
That at the moment is undecided...I'm building the AU more around ships than building it based purely on what I want to happen. That being said, the TV-1A (Sorry I just noticed the typo on the drawing) would enter service just around the time that Centennia and the Allies would go on the offensive.

But being that I haven't exactly figured that out yet, I can assure that this will be in the 1944-46 range, as this version of WWII is very much a slower-paced, stalemate-like conflict with fairly extended amounts of time in between each major engagement, mostly due to the fact that with the Washington Naval Treaty, being unable to prevent another (albeit rather slow) arms race, Axis forces will have worked to build sizable navies (Maybe even like that of Ashley's '46 Kreigsmarine!). This would result in sizable losses for both sides, leading to more recovery time for both sides. Also, Hitler and his ignorant decisions won't be featured here, so I'm also working on a structure for the German government in order to get that relentless attitude Hitler had towards pushing on with his campaigns, just without the controversial decisions that made him one of history's most hated men.
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were are the engines? you are not gonna tell me that those are in those wing pods, as that will mean that you will never be able to lift off vertically unless that plane is made from.... say... cardboard?
Yeah, I guess there's a big error...I guess thats what happens after a 4-month hiatus! :oops:

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