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Zephyr
Post subject: Re: Grays Harbor DesignsPosted: June 7th, 2012, 10:16 pm
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Nice carrier, but one point is the funnel which, to me at least, is too low. I would raise it a bit.
That would mean some relocating for the searchlights, but thats not anything that would be too onerous. There are a number of places they could go such as higher up on the tripod mast, or on sponsons like on the Yorktowns.

I'm also still thinking "too many ports" in the hull. Any opinions on that?

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Post subject: Re: Grays Harbor DesignsPosted: June 7th, 2012, 10:22 pm
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Zephyr wrote:
...I'm also still thinking "too many ports" in the hull. Any opinions on that?
Definitely too many port holes. These are weak points in the hull structure. Even passenger ships don't have that many portholes in the hull.
Give the ship some hull openings like in Real Life carriers, ideas can be found in Bombhead's excellent thread on British carriers, or look for the USS Yorktown Here.

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Post subject: Re: Grays Harbor DesignsPosted: June 7th, 2012, 10:32 pm
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...I'm also still thinking "too many ports" in the hull. Any opinions on that?
Definitely too many port holes. These are weak points in the hull structure. Even passenger ships don't have that many portholes in the hull.
Give the ship some hull openings like in Real Life carriers, ideas can be found in Bombhead's excellent thread on British carriers, or look for the USS Yorktown Here.
In my defense... 3AM, and got just a bit carried away. :lol:

Oh, I have definately been looking a Bombheads work and at the Yorkie. Thats one reason my island carries that deja-vu type feeling of "I've seen this somewhere before", its pretty much based on the Yorktown class island. I didn't want it to be a line-for-line copy, but I was definately going for that feel.

Carrier this size, with an armored flight deck, an air wing of 44-48 aircraft sounds about right? :?

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Post subject: Re: Grays Harbor DesignsPosted: June 7th, 2012, 10:34 pm
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Hum...Nice carrier still maybe needs some upgrades but you will draw the deck?
Yeah, it still needs some work. Thats the main reason I posted it "early", to get some ideas on what needs done. I hadn't really planned on doing a top view, that may be a bit beyond my skillset at this point.
You can use any bits you need of my drawings Zephyr.Give the top a go mate,it's not as difficult as you think.


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Post subject: Re: Grays Harbor DesignsPosted: June 7th, 2012, 10:38 pm
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I believe the number is optimistic. Please note that HMS Illustrious (which I think is a little larger), with one hangar was good for 36 aircraft, and even with outriggers the number was small.

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Post subject: Re: Grays Harbor DesignsPosted: June 7th, 2012, 10:44 pm
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Actually, my Medusa is a good 60'+ longer than the Illustrious, 805' OA vs 743' OA. I wasn't really looking to the Illustrious group as far as air wing numbers go though, but more along the lines of the follow-on Implacable class. Still has an armored flight deck, but more hanger space.

Something else I think I'll change ... Drop the 3-shaft idea and go with a 4-shaft design for props.

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Post subject: Re: Grays Harbor DesignsPosted: June 8th, 2012, 3:40 am
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made a couple changes, raised the funnel, reduced the ports, shifted the searchlights. Kept the triple screws though, at least for now.

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You can use any bits you need of my drawings Zephyr.Give the top a go mate,it's not as difficult as you think.
Thanks. I may do that. I want to get the starboard view hammered down first though.

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Post subject: Re: Grays Harbor DesignsPosted: June 8th, 2012, 3:48 am
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Using the top layout to hammer out the starboard view might help too.

And I haven't forgotten the DD/DDG, just been hit with the hardest two weeks of classes I've had so far.

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Post subject: Re: Grays Harbor DesignsPosted: June 8th, 2012, 3:58 am
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Using the top layout to hammer out the starboard view might help too.
I might try and give it a go. We'll see.
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And I haven't forgotten the DD/DDG, just been hit with the hardest two weeks of classes I've had so far.
no worries. I can be patient.

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Post subject: Re: Grays Harbor DesignsPosted: June 8th, 2012, 4:00 am
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or look for the USS Yorktown Here.
I just noticed something about that drawing of the Yorktown. Unless I figured something wrong, I think its too short. It measures (again, assuming I did the math right) at 759' WL and 809' OA. According to what I've read about the Yorktown, it was 770' WL and 824' OA.

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