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Post subject: Kingdom of Grays Harbor SplitPosted: June 6th, 2012, 3:00 am
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Zephyr wrote:
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No Admiralty??? Just a measly thirteen-in-a-dozen Naval Ministry... :o :( :roll:
We actually use the terms interchangably. The informal title, and most frequently used name, for the Naval Ministry is "The Admiralty". In fact it is more frequently used than the formal name itself, as shown here (8th ministry down the list)


I got a Virus warning from that, so watch out people.

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Post subject: Re: Grays Harbor DesignsPosted: June 6th, 2012, 4:34 am
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And this time a cruiser-minelayer, the Edmund Boyle Class. Laid down in 1924, two of these were commissioned in 1927, the HMS Edmund Boyle and the HMS Albert Stephens. They were designed to be capable both of independent operations and to operate with the fleet.

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Edmund Boyle, Grays Harbor cruiser-minelayer laid down 1924 (Engine 1925)

Displacement:
10,065 t light; 10,327 t standard; 11,793 t normal; 12,966 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
502.04 ft / 487.00 ft x 67.00 ft x 23.00 ft (normal load)
153.02 m / 148.44 m x 20.42 m x 7.01 m

Armament:
4 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1924 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
6 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1924 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1924 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 576 lbs / 261 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 75

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5.00" / 127 mm 287.33 ft / 87.58 m 9.82 ft / 2.99 m
Ends: 4.00" / 102 mm 199.65 ft / 60.85 m 9.82 ft / 2.99 m
Upper: 4.00" / 102 mm 287.33 ft / 87.58 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 91 % of normal length
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
4.00" / 102 mm 287.33 ft / 87.58 m 21.11 ft / 6.43 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2.00" / 51 mm - 3.00" / 76 mm

- Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 2.00" / 51 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 53,303 shp / 39,764 Kw = 28.00 kts
Range 12,500nm at 14.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,639 tons

Complement:
565 - 735

Cost:
£2.025 million / $8.098 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 72 tons, 0.6 %
Armour: 3,249 tons, 27.5 %
- Belts: 1,313 tons, 11.1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 898 tons, 7.6 %
- Armament: 138 tons, 1.2 %
- Armour Deck: 877 tons, 7.4 %
- Conning Tower: 22 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 1,731 tons, 14.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,214 tons, 18.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,728 tons, 14.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 2,800 tons, 23.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
10,886 lbs / 4,938 Kg = 100.8 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 2.6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.04
Metacentric height 3.0 ft / 0.9 m
Roll period: 16.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 74 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.16
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.48

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak, raised quarterdeck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.27 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 25.70 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 16.20 degrees
Stern overhang: 4.00 ft / 1.22 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 38.00 ft / 11.58 m
- Forecastle (18 %): 30.50 ft / 9.30 m (29.50 ft / 8.99 m aft of break)
- Mid (37 %): 29.50 ft / 8.99 m (21.50 ft / 6.55 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (23 %): 22.00 ft / 6.71 m (21.50 ft / 6.55 m before break)
- Stern: 22.50 ft / 6.86 m
- Average freeboard: 25.35 ft / 7.73 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 112.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 192.4 %
Waterplane Area: 23,707 Square feet or 2,202 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 117 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 56 lbs/sq ft or 273 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.53
- Longitudinal: 1.61
- Overall: 0.60
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily


The armor belt was just kind-of a guesstimate as I did the SS prior to actually adding the belt. I figured since it is a cruiser-minelayer, and supposed to operate in forward combat zones, some armor along the lines of what a standard cruiser may have would not be out of line. I am also guessing that mine capacity would be somewhere around 600-800. I added 1600 misc. tons for that, and 800 tons for the catapult and aircraft facilities. There is only one catapult, and no hanger, the floatplane being covered with a tarpaulin when not in use. The 6"/45 main guns are in single turrets of the "weatherproof" type, so armor is minimal on them. The Boyles were the last ships built using that type turret. (I was thinking of having them replaced with twin 4.7"/45 twin mounts in the late 30's)

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Post subject: Re: Kingdom of Grays HarborPosted: June 6th, 2012, 4:38 am
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virus warning? really? thats odd. I've had that site since about 2003. I know it needs updating, but I didn't know about any virus.

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Post subject: Re: Grays Harbor DesignsPosted: June 6th, 2012, 4:46 am
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Post subject: Re: Grays Harbor DesignsPosted: June 6th, 2012, 4:46 am
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Excellant class I think I personally prefer my cruisers a bit more "sleek" but none the less its a very nice design
slightly off topic question any plans on doing the IIRC HMS Diomede with the Mk.XVl i see u made

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Post subject: Re: Kingdom of Grays HarborPosted: June 6th, 2012, 4:47 am
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I checked it out earlier and I didn't get a virus warning.

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Post subject: Re: Grays Harbor DesignsPosted: June 6th, 2012, 4:59 am
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Trojan wrote:
Excellant class I think I personally prefer my cruisers a bit more "sleek" but none the less its a very nice design
slightly off topic question any plans on doing the IIRC HMS Diomede with the Mk.XVl i see u made
Heres a "clean" version without railings and such if you want to use it. :)

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As far as my cruisers go, my navy has always preferred more robust than sleek, particularly during the 1910-1940 period. My modern cruisers are a bit sleeker though, as is my Colonies class light cruiser series.

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Post subject: Re: Grays Harbor DesignsPosted: June 6th, 2012, 5:08 am
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Thank you very much however I don't think my kit bashing drawing skills would do any good for the ship
and reasonable enough and yes good point there

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Post subject: Re: Grays Harbor DesignsPosted: June 6th, 2012, 9:45 am
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I like it, but isn't 75 rpg a bit low for the Main Battery?


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Post subject: Re: Grays Harbor DesignsPosted: June 6th, 2012, 10:20 am
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If the SS report is accurate then the design has some problem. Also, the 40mm guns should be machineguns and while the SS report says it has a transom stern, the drawing doesn't.

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