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Best single propeller engined fighter
1. North American P-51H  31%  [ 16 ]
2. Vought F4U-5  10%  [ 5 ]
3. Focke Wulf Fw-190D-9/Ta.152  17%  [ 9 ]
4. CAC Kangaroo  6%  [ 3 ]
5. Hawker Sea Fury  12%  [ 6 ]
6. Grumman F8F Bearcat  6%  [ 3 ]
7.Lavochkin La-9/ La-11  0%  [ 0 ]
8. Supermarine Spiteful/Seafang  6%  [ 3 ]
9. P-47N/XP-72/XP-47J  6%  [ 3 ]
10. Ki-84  8%  [ 4 ]
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Karle94
Post subject: Re: Best Single Engined Prop FighterPosted: May 29th, 2012, 4:30 pm
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The Rare Bear attained 860 km/h. One standard military Bearcat reached 840 km/h.


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Post subject: Re: Best Single Engined Prop FighterPosted: May 29th, 2012, 5:09 pm
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R-2800 do not give you enough power to do that, even if you strip plane from all armor, weapons and most of fuel. Maybe in hard dive but never in straight flight. If "standard" F8F reach 840 km/h why they all not fly with 800-830 km/h speed ? Data say the max speed of serial build F8F was 740 km/h.

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Post subject: Re: Best Single Engined Prop FighterPosted: May 29th, 2012, 6:20 pm
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Rhade wrote:
R-2800 do not give you enough power to do that, even if you strip plane from all armor, weapons and most of fuel. Maybe in hard dive but never in straight flight. If "standard" F8F reach 840 km/h why they all not fly with 800-830 km/h speed ? Data say the max speed of serial build F8F was 740 km/h.
He said one standard Bearcat.
I'm personally willing to bet that said 'standard' Bearcat was about as 'standard' as a mechanic friend of mine's 'standard' Volkswagen Jetta. Yes- everything under the hood says WV, but that doesn't mean that every moving part hasn't been timed to the nanosecond, injectors tweaked and altered ever so slightly, fuel/air mixes optimized and everything is hooked up to a computer once a week for some obligatory "what would this do" alterations.
These machines were the only things between their pilots and a horrible death- and their crew chiefs knew it. I doubt very seriously that fine-tuning to the point of insanity didn't occasionally occur with a good ground crew.

My M9 Beretta looked 'stock' - but when I left the Guard, the trigger spring and captured recoil spring that I put in went home with me... not to mention my personal mags (cause Army mags suck).

Few people in the military trust something at stock specs with their lives- we tinker with everything.


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Post subject: Re: Best Single Engined Prop FighterPosted: May 29th, 2012, 6:31 pm
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All true, Cart' all true. But you cant tune piston engine who give you max speed of 740 to 840 km/h this is just technically impossible. If you can take 740 to 800 km/h that would be miracle.

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Post subject: Re: Best Single Engined Prop FighterPosted: May 29th, 2012, 6:38 pm
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I see the topic is now the 'ultimate single engined prop fighter', so no contest; the post war developments certainly took the concept as far as it could go, but unfortunately by then this was a blind alley with the onset of jet powered fighters. By 'best', I would redifine the subject as 'best all round', as in having the best fighter when it was needed. In that sense the Hurricane would probably beat the Spitfire in 1940 in RAF service because it was incredibly tough and easier to manufatcture and repair. So if we were to say - best WWII fighter, I'd still stand by the Mustang :)


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Post subject: Re: Best Single Engined Prop FighterPosted: May 29th, 2012, 8:13 pm
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Thank you for all the discussion and advice especially from PB
for the other category I agree with what you said about it but I didn't expect people to include early and mid war fighters to the mix as that wasn't my intention ( nothing wrong with those opinions though)
so change the subject to best all around
PB i also agree as I stated in my initial post that they were already outdated
I also don't mean best WWll fighter as much as I mean most capable piston engined fighter
ALso RHade maybe I miss understood you but all of the choices are either very late war or post war

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Post subject: Re: Best Single Engined Prop FighterPosted: May 29th, 2012, 8:37 pm
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There is "other" option, and this give us a BIG choice. ;)

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Post subject: Re: Best Single Engined Prop FighterPosted: May 29th, 2012, 9:04 pm
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very true I see your point any recommendations to improve the "other" option

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Post subject: Re: Best Single Engined Prop FighterPosted: May 30th, 2012, 2:46 am
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Gotta go with the Hellcat on this one.

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Post subject: Re: Best Single Engined Prop FighterPosted: May 30th, 2012, 2:49 am
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I would have chosen the P-47, so I chose the P-51.

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