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Post subject: Re: Agamemnon Class Semi-DreadnoughtPosted: April 23rd, 2012, 6:48 am
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Needs work and is barely SB standard as it is.

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Post subject: Re: Agamemnon Class Semi-DreadnoughtPosted: May 8th, 2012, 7:05 pm
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Raxar wrote:
copy-pasted your standard, blocky bridge and masts onto it
So? Is it wrong to standardise prefabricated parts?


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Post subject: Re: Agamemnon Class Semi-DreadnoughtPosted: May 8th, 2012, 7:56 pm
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APDAF wrote:

So? Is it wrong to standardise prefabricated parts?
Large warships such as this one didn't really use "prefabricated" parts. Not in the sence that you seem to give it(i.e, mass-produced, fold-up-and-nail-to-hull-constructs)anyways.


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Post subject: Re: Agamemnon Class Semi-DreadnoughtPosted: May 9th, 2012, 12:31 am
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APDAF wrote:
Raxar wrote:
copy-pasted your standard, blocky bridge and masts onto it
So? Is it wrong to standardise prefabricated parts?
Because with it all your ships look the same, and no one ever really pre-fabed warships, especially in this era.

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Post subject: Re: Agamemnon Class Semi-DreadnoughtPosted: May 11th, 2012, 4:15 pm
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Lowered casmated guns.
Fixed? secondary gun placements.

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Post subject: Re: Agamemnon Class Semi-DreadnoughtPosted: May 11th, 2012, 4:31 pm
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Not fixed by far. First of all your masts are thin as match sticks! They'll break even in the calmest of seas. Secondly you ignored my query as to how the %&$##@ you managed to stow that cutter atop the steam pinnace! In other words, you still have a long way to go...

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Post subject: Re: Agamemnon Class Semi-DreadnoughtPosted: May 11th, 2012, 4:38 pm
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The masts are only six inches thinner than the one on the real Agamemnon.
And the cutters are behind the pinnace.


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Post subject: Re: Agamemnon Class Semi-DreadnoughtPosted: May 11th, 2012, 5:29 pm
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APDAF wrote:
The masts are only six inches thinner than the one on the real Agamemnon.
Six inches may not sound like a lot, but take my word for it, it is. Before the economy went kerflooie I was a steel worker, building hydrogen plants, and let me tell you, when working with steel pipes ranging from ½" up to 36", there is a major difference in even 1 or 2" difference in size. There is only 5" difference between a 3" pipe and an 8" pipe, but size and strength wise, they are miles apart. At the scale we are working at here, those masts may as well be bamboo sticks for all the support they would give. I doubt they could support those large fighting tops the way they are drawn in drydock on a windless day, let alone at sea in even a moderate swell.
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And the cutters are behind the pinnace.
There may not be room between the pinnace and the funnel for the cutters, unless your ship has a significantly wider beam than suspected. Either that or you have kayaks for cutters. ;)

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Post subject: Re: Agamemnon Class Semi-DreadnoughtPosted: May 11th, 2012, 5:44 pm
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The Lord Nelson class' superstructure had a sort of a "dip" into itself to make it possible for the side turrets to turn. Look at Raxar's drawing of the IRL Agamemnon to get an idea how it should be drawn.
And, to further clarify, I'm posting a cut-away picture. Note that it's technicaly taken from the bow or aft:
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Post subject: Re: Agamemnon Class Semi-DreadnoughtPosted: May 11th, 2012, 5:47 pm
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Ah I see it now. :oops:


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