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Post subject: Re: HMAS Brisbane DDG01 - Australias Retro NavyPosted: April 23rd, 2012, 7:52 am
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Damn you LEUT_east, you've stolen my thunder :lol: Meaning, I was also playing with this concept as an alternative to the Adams class, using the Coontz as the template. My take retains the original sam missile, with the hangar on top of the handling/magazine room (as you've done), and because I like the look, the two 5-in in A & B positions, with the Ikara also in the midship position. Looking at the Adams and what the RAN hoped to get with a Wessex on board, it looked too ambitious on that sized hull; but here you can accomodate all the systems. With this 'Brisbane' you have a ship more comparable with the RN County class.Of course, in real life too expensive and who would have built them? But in AU land a very attractive proposition; well done mate :)

BTW, something wrong with my image host aweay from home, but I'll send the Supply material tonight.


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Post subject: Re: HMAS Brisbane DDG01 - Australias Retro NavyPosted: April 24th, 2012, 8:28 am
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Thanks for the feedback gents but I am far from happy with this design and in fact almost trashed it before I eventually got around to completing and posting it. Not one of my better designs I'm afraid.

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Post subject: Re: HMAS Brisbane DDG01 - Australias Retro NavyPosted: April 25th, 2012, 6:04 am
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I have made some changes to this design.

Change #1. Changed hull mounted sonar (see specifications)
Change #2. Hangar extended forward to aft mast.
Change #3. Exhaust shield forward of Mk29 Sea Sparrow Launcher.
Change #4. Minor detail changes in superstructure.
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Displacement
Light – 6,250 tonnes
Full Load – 7,850 tonnes

Dimensions
Length – 148 metres
Beam – 15.5 metres
Draught- 7.3 metres

Propulsion
Shafts – 2
Engines – 4 x Ferguson 20V71236-MiLCDE Diesels
Total Power – 47,500bhp
Speed – 32 knots
Range – 8,000nm @ 18 knots

Armament
Guns – 2 x FMC Mk42 127mm, 2 x 40mm Bofors
SAM Launchers – 1 x Mk13 Mod 4 Launcher for Standard SM-1, Raytheon Sea Sparrow Mk29 (octuple)
ASW Launchers – 2 x Ikara Launchers
Torpedos – 2 x triple Mk32 Tubes

Decoys
2 x Loral Hycor SRBOC Mk36 (6 barrel)

Radars
Air Search – Lockheed AN/SPS-40D
Air Search/Fire Control – 1 x Hughes AN/SPS-52C
Fire Control (Gun Control) – 1 x Signal WM-28
Fire Control (Missile Illumination) – 2 x Raytheon AN/SPG-51D
Surface Search - 1 x Norden AN/SPS-67
Navigation - 1 x Kelvin Hughes 1006

Sonar
1 x Mulloka, 1 x Type 245 (Active Search)

Aircraft
1 x Westland SK-50A Seaking

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Post subject: Re: HMAS Brisbane DDG01 - Australias Retro NavyPosted: April 25th, 2012, 9:09 am
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Looks like a very nice DDG to me! and drawn in great detail. A very capable destroyer ,optional could fit a Phalax instead of aft 5 inch.

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Post subject: Re: UPDATED: HMAS Brisbane DDG01 - Australias Retro NavyPosted: April 25th, 2012, 9:33 am
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Thanks mate, I am a lot happier with the design now I have done the research and modifications. I wanted to use a Phalanx (aft) but the idea for this was to be a retro design ship.

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Post subject: Re: UPDATED: HMAS Brisbane DDG01 - Australias Retro NavyPosted: April 25th, 2012, 12:36 pm
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LEUT_East wrote:
Thanks mate, I am a lot happier with the design now I have done the research and modifications. I wanted to use a Phalanx (aft) but the idea for this was to be a retro design ship.
Well ofcourse it can be done in a update version, u could even go with other CIWS's. An updated Brisbane would be very intresting. I always love RAN's ships , good capable modern ships in a weird green/grey camo :P

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Post subject: Re: UPDATED: HMAS Brisbane DDG01 - Australias Retro NavyPosted: April 25th, 2012, 7:13 pm
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A very nice ship with well balanced weaponry.


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Post subject: Re: UPDATED: HMAS Brisbane DDG01 - Australias Retro NavyPosted: April 25th, 2012, 11:15 pm
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very nice, where is the 40mm located? 20mm Oerlikons would be another option.
Would the ships have been built in Australia? Or bought in.

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Post subject: Re: UPDATED: HMAS Brisbane DDG01 - Australias Retro NavyPosted: April 26th, 2012, 1:43 am
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rifleman wrote:
very nice, where is the 40mm located? 20mm Oerlikons would be another option.
Would the ships have been built in Australia? Or bought in.
Well the Perth Class was build in the US , so these probly would have been build there to. I also couldn't find the 40 mm's , i think 20 mm would be better instead as u said. She would serve very well as a Nato wide GW destroyer.

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Post subject: Re: UPDATED: HMAS Brisbane DDG01 - Australias Retro NavyPosted: April 26th, 2012, 1:51 am
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I should have mentioned in the specs that the 40mms are a "fitted for but not with" item on these vessels (in line with RAN common practises and lack of funding for capital projects).

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