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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: April 11th, 2012, 5:42 pm
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The swedish navy using the RIM-24 and the Mk.11/Mk.13? Doesn't seem quite right to me. Wouldn't the Swedish have produced their own equivalent?
I have been thinking about that - but I think it is more realistic for Sweden to licence build developed SAMs, only the UK has scratch developed area defence SAMs in europe (except russia of course). Even though Sweden is larger in this scenario, I doubt there would be knowhow, resources etc for starting a SAM line before 1980 - and then there is a lot of SAMs avalible when Sweden also is a member of NATO (staff membership like France)

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: April 11th, 2012, 6:28 pm
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The swedish navy using the RIM-24 and the Mk.11/Mk.13? Doesn't seem quite right to me. Wouldn't the Swedish have produced their own equivalent?
I have been thinking about that - but I think it is more realistic for Sweden to licence build developed SAMs, only the UK has scratch developed area defence SAMs in europe (except russia of course). Even though Sweden is larger in this scenario, I doubt there would be knowhow, resources etc for starting a SAM line before 1980 - and then there is a lot of SAMs avalible when Sweden also is a member of NATO (staff membership like France)
The French did with Masurca.

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: April 12th, 2012, 8:06 am
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Well - the MASURCA has very close relation to the Tartar/ Terrier, a swedish SAM could be that kind of cooperation/ license development.

My plan was to buy Talos and Tartar from the US, then not being allowed licenesscontracts for Standrad in the 70s the navy turns for SeaDart for the Mannerheim/ Lewenhaupt destroyers around 1980. After the cold war the navy can achive the license contracts for SM-2 for the Svärdet and Nordenskiöld.

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: April 12th, 2012, 11:46 am
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Sounds like a good idea.

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: April 13th, 2012, 5:41 pm
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Wip gunnery airdefence destroyer "Jägerhorn"
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Sweden, Jägerhorn Destroyer laid down 1950

Displacement:
2 849 t light; 2 973 t standard; 3 200 t normal; 3 382 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(437,22 ft / 426,51 ft) x 52,49 ft x (13,12 / 13,57 ft)
(133,26 m / 130,00 m) x 16,00 m x (4,00 / 4,14 m)

Armament:
6 - 4,72" / 120 mm 50,0 cal guns - 55,82lbs / 25,32kg shells, 250 per gun
Auto rapid fire guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1950 Model
3 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
8 - 2,24" / 57,0 mm 60,0 cal guns - 6,19lbs / 2,81kg shells, 500 per gun
Auto rapid fire guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1950 Model
4 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 384 lbs / 174 kg
Main Torpedoes
5 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m torpedoes - 1,596 t each, 7,981 t total
In 1 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes
Mines
2 - 330,69 lbs / 150,00 kg mines + 60 reloads - 9,153 t total
in Above water - Stern racks/rails
Main DC/AS Mortars
4 - 330,69 lbs / 150,00 kg trainable AS Mortars + 16 reloads - 2,953 t total

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1,97" / 50 mm 0,79" / 20 mm 1,18" / 30 mm
2nd: 0,79" / 20 mm 0,39" / 10 mm 0,39" / 10 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 55 121 shp / 41 120 Kw = 35,00 kts
Range 2 000nm at 20,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 409 tons

Complement:
212 - 276

Cost:
£2,556 million / $10,225 million

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: April 14th, 2012, 12:03 pm
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And the DDG version with tartar/ Mk11 launcher

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: April 14th, 2012, 2:48 pm
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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: April 14th, 2012, 5:58 pm
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excellent drawings
the aft deck on the only gun armed one looks a little barren

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: April 14th, 2012, 8:38 pm
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Yes - she isn't completed, flarerocketlauncher and all ship handling stuff will be added.

on the DDG there is a helicopter deck

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: April 14th, 2012, 8:59 pm
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ahhh ok makes sense and yes i noticed that

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