Shipbucket

good comeback, matey! Just deepen the hull and increase draught and you'll also raise the metacentric height, thus making her more stable!

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My Avatar:Петр Алексеевич Безобразов (Petr Alekseevich Bezobrazov), Вице-адмирал , царская ВМФ России(1845-1906) - I sign my drawings as Ari Saarinen

Sorry about mistaking the bore of the gun, they looked mighty big to be 6"!
And yeah, the 100-ish pound shell of the 6" gun is the biggest that anyone believed that two men could manage.

AS far as the stack, I was thinking that they looked a bit bare- they needed funnel caps, some miscellaneous pipes, supports, etc on them... not so much that they needed artwork.

If you need one, I think I can get you one, that is badge, since I did a Swedish Type22 variant named Wachtmeister and Wrangel...look in personal designs...

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My Avatar:Петр Алексеевич Безобразов (Petr Alekseevich Bezobrazov), Вице-адмирал , царская ВМФ России(1845-1906) - I sign my drawings as Ari Saarinen

Forgot to mention it... but...:


The red markings show you the ATBW armament. I will buff up the numbers, but there ARE some at least.

We now move on to V. 1.4

Much better hull proportions!

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Updated, mostly the little 'walkway' at the stern and a new color scheme.

Looking good, think I'll take a stab at doing up an SS2 profile. Is there a laydown date or any other information? I'm thinking four 8.27-inch guns (twin turrets) plus 4 single 6-inch guns.

I haven't decided on an exact date, but say 1905-1910. FYI, there are only two 8.27"(single turrets). Otherwise, be my guest, and have fun.

Here she is...

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Wrangel, Swedish Armored Cruiser laid down 1903

Displacement:
5,434 t light; 5,662 t standard; 6,027 t normal; 6,318 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
459.32 ft / 459.32 ft x 49.00 ft x 16.50 ft (normal load)
140.00 m / 140.00 m x 14.94 m x 5.03 m

Armament:
2 - 8.27" / 210 mm guns in single mounts, 282.80lbs / 128.28kg shells, 1903 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1903 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
4 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm guns in single mounts, 5.65lbs / 2.56kg shells, 1903 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1,020 lbs / 463 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 175
4 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 2.95" / 75 mm 210.00 ft / 64.01 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 70 % of normal length
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 5.91" / 150 mm
2nd: 1.57" / 40 mm - -
3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm - -

- Armour deck: 0.59" / 15 mm, Conning tower: 3.94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 14,702 ihp / 10,968 Kw = 21.50 kts
Range 3,500nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 656 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
341 - 444

Cost:
£0.605 million / $2.418 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 128 tons, 2.1 %
Armour: 679 tons, 11.3 %
- Belts: 277 tons, 4.6 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 200 tons, 3.3 %
- Armour Deck: 174 tons, 2.9 %
- Conning Tower: 28 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 2,194 tons, 36.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,358 tons, 39.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 592 tons, 9.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 75 tons, 1.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
3,902 lbs / 1,770 Kg = 13.8 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 0.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
Metacentric height 2.3 ft / 0.7 m
Roll period: 13.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.76
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.568
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.37 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 21.43 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -12.00 degrees
Stern overhang: -5.20 ft / -1.58 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 21.57 ft / 6.57 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Mid (50 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Stern: 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Average freeboard: 20.13 ft / 6.13 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 145.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 178.5 %
Waterplane Area: 15,975 Square feet or 1,484 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 98 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 82 lbs/sq ft or 400 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.91
- Longitudinal: 2.33
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Design works well but couldn't fit a torpedo bulkhead and the belt is shorter than I'd like. A bit more speed would also be nice.