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denodon
Post subject: Re: NATO ASW Design ChallengePosted: March 24th, 2012, 11:20 am
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Where would be the best place to position one then? I could maybe move it to where the Sea Sparrow currently is but that would vastly reduce the firing arc it has and pretty much make it useless. Thanks for that information about its penetration though. That kind of stuff needs to be on more of the part sheets than it is currently as its very handy.

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Post subject: Re: NATO ASW Design ChallengePosted: March 24th, 2012, 11:32 am
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best keep it on the stern, as the main gun covers the forward arc. the best places to put it would be on an heightened structure on top of the hangar, or in front of the hangar (so directly aft of the radar) or you could put it on one side only, like the dutch M frigates have. also, my compliments for the way you work (working from an existing base ship and modifying that from the basic lines up, instead of copying parts with details and all)
keep an eye on the latest parts, especially the dutch parts sheet in this case;) also, there is an belowdeck view topic in the parts sheet section, where you can find the sizes of at least some systems....

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Post subject: Re: NATO ASW Design ChallengePosted: March 24th, 2012, 1:57 pm
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I'll do a few experiments and see whether elevating it or moving it further amidships works better. As for how I work, thanks. When I am unfamiliar with how to draw a type of ship (in this case a modern vessel), I try to find existing lineart that is similar to my idea and initially trace over it with my own lines on a new layer before changing things from there to suit my taste. It helps with learning how the basics of ships are done (in this case getting the bow rake in particular was very hard to do to a way that satisfied what I wanted.

I tend to do this even with the parts drawn on the parts sheets as its all part of learning how to get them drawn right. I don't do that all the time but sometimes I still do. A lot of the vessels in my AU thread use real world weapons that I've first re-drawn myself on a new layer over the original and then adjusted it to make it my own yet still recognisable.

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Post subject: Re: NATO ASW Design ChallengePosted: March 25th, 2012, 10:10 am
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I know this entry would be after the running time of this contest but I have in mind a Type 25 Batch II for the mid-1990s.
This would be very similar except for a 32-cell Sea Wolf VLS forward and an 8-cell VLS aft. The hangar would be wider, allowing for two Lynx, perhaps two EH101 at a push. Electronics etc. largely identical, perhaps some improvements like a CACS 6 and of course the GWS 26 Mod 1 SAM fire-control system. Type 996 3-D radar isn't fitted but would probably be added in the later 1990s. I'd see these ships commissioning from 1993-1997 and there would be eight ships. That would give total fleet of 20 Type 25s alongside the eight older Type 22 Broadswords.

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Post subject: Re: NATO ASW Design ChallengePosted: March 25th, 2012, 12:46 pm
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very nice

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Post subject: Re: NATO ASW Design ChallengePosted: March 25th, 2012, 3:09 pm
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Is the eight-cell VLS aft even worth the trouble? Otherwise very nice.


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Post subject: Re: NATO ASW Design ChallengePosted: March 27th, 2012, 11:17 am
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getting closer to completion. basic arrangement of radars and weapons is now done, so now nearing the detailing stage.....

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Post subject: Re: NATO ASW Design ChallengePosted: March 27th, 2012, 11:19 pm
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I've been trying to come up with something for this and repeatedly failed to obtain anything, at least until this evening. So here is what I have thus far, not sure which way to take it from here on in though...

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Post subject: Re: NATO ASW Design ChallengePosted: March 27th, 2012, 11:21 pm
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Mid Ship NSSM is definitely not a good idea...


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Post subject: Re: NATO ASW Design ChallengePosted: March 28th, 2012, 12:15 pm
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Greetings all! There are some great drawings appearing in this thread.

Drawing vessels of this era are a little out of my comfort zone, but as I haven't got round to drawing recently I thought I'd have a crack at this!

I gave up on my original French corvette design posted earlier in the thread. It was nearing completion, but I just didnt like the look of it for some reason... Here is as far as I got:

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I decided to start from scratch, so below are my German ASW Frigates so far. I have tried to follow design features of German ships of that period, and I'm quite happy with the result so far. As far as the 'competition' goes, this will be my entry, so any feedback and suggestions would be great!

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Dortmund Class ASW Frigate
Year of commission: 1980
Displacement: approx. 4000 tons
Length: 406' (123m)
Armament
2 x DCN 100 mm/55
2 x Twin Breda 40 mmL70
2 x Quad 375 mm AS rocket launchers
4 x 533 mm torpedo tubes
1 x 8 x Sea Sparrow SAM launcher

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Stuttgart Class ASW Frigate
Year of commission: 1982
Displacement: approx. 3800 tons
Length: 419' (127m)
Aircraft: Hangar for 1 x Lynx helicopter
Armament
1 x DCN 100 mm/55
2 x Twin Breda 40 mmL70
2 x 533 mm torpedo tubes
1 x 8 x Sea Sparrow SAM launcher

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