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Post subject: Re: EFNS H-11 Type Heavy BBGMN DesignPosted: March 21st, 2012, 9:42 pm
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Erusia Force wrote:
As for ship pitch, :lol: going to take a hurricane with fin stabilization and a width of 150 feet. Regardless, the spy-1 is appearing to be more of a handicap than help for tracking command.
As someone who has worked on a ship that wide, with stabs and bilge keels and a whole lot more mass than this ship I can tell you they roll just fine.

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Post subject: Re: EFNS H-11 Type Heavy BBGMN DesignPosted: March 21st, 2012, 9:44 pm
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I might be wrong but.... do you have any idea what SPY-1 does? what it is? how it works?





anyways, gonna tell you this: it has nothing to do with tracking, it is an search radar. tracking is done by directors or phased array radars or similar stuff. you can do tracking with SPY-1, but it is not designed to do so, and it does not operationally (as far as I know/remember)

if I see it correctly, SPY-1 does about exactly the same thing as that huge russian air search radar on top of your structure. and if it does not, there will be an huge russian air search radar that does!

ow btw, if the shading, bilge keel and bulb really are like that..... well then I have seen oil tankers with an better hull shape then that.

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Post subject: Re: EFNS H-11 Type Heavy BBGMN DesignPosted: March 21st, 2012, 9:48 pm
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Thiel wrote:
As someone who has worked on a ship that wide, with stabs and bilge keels and a whole lot more mass than this ship I can tell you they roll just fine.[/quote wrote:

As in they roll a lot or very little?


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Post subject: Re: EFNS H-11 Type Heavy BBGMN DesignPosted: March 21st, 2012, 9:54 pm
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As in they roll about as much as any other large ship. Take a look on youtube, you'll find plenty of hard weather vidoes shot from very large ships, including 100.000 ton carriers.

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Post subject: Re: EFNS H-11 Type Heavy BBGMN DesignPosted: March 21st, 2012, 9:56 pm
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an ship that not moves in the waves is not an ship. that's an building ;)

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Post subject: Re: EFNS H-11 Type Heavy BBGMN DesignPosted: March 21st, 2012, 10:08 pm
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Or a pier

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Post subject: Re: EFNS H-11 Type Heavy BBGMN DesignPosted: March 21st, 2012, 10:12 pm
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Post subject: Re: EFNS H-11 Type Heavy BBGMN DesignPosted: March 21st, 2012, 10:21 pm
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Post subject: Re: EFNS H-11 Type Heavy BBGMN DesignPosted: March 21st, 2012, 11:05 pm
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IMO if you're going to accommodate the American Aegis radars, I would just completely redesign the superstructure around those radars. IIRC that's how the USN designs its warships these days.

Trying to splice USN Aegis radars onto a Russian superstructure just doesn't really work that well IMO.

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Post subject: Re: EFNS H-11 Type Heavy BBGMN DesignPosted: March 21st, 2012, 11:31 pm
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acelanceloet wrote:
I might be wrong but.... do you have any idea what SPY-1 does? what it is? how it works?





anyways, gonna tell you this: it has nothing to do with tracking, it is an search radar. tracking is done by directors or phased array radars or similar stuff. you can do tracking with SPY-1, but it is not designed to do so, and it does not operationally (as far as I know/remember)
What.

Anyway, not bad for a modern battleship! Although a modern battleship is a lot like the Star Wars prequels!


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