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nighthunter
Post subject: Re: DD-445 FletcherPosted: March 12th, 2012, 7:18 am
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Awesome work, Colo, and thank you for the square bridge variant.

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Post subject: Re: DD-445 FletcherPosted: March 12th, 2012, 7:38 am
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Fantastic series!

I'll check the Italian post-ww2 fleet: I remember one round- and one square-bridge...

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Post subject: Re: DD-445 FletcherPosted: March 12th, 2012, 9:00 am
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Thanks Colo
These ships and immense logistic effort to design, build, equip modify let alone to supply the personnel with suitable training to man then supply them with fuel, food and ammunition during the war years is a feat many people just have no feel for these days.
Thank you for the immense amount of effort and research that you had to put in to do these drawings
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Wolfman
Post subject: Re: DD-445 FletcherPosted: March 12th, 2012, 2:19 pm
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Colosseum wrote:
Late-war square bridge type that apparently has been much-anticipated:

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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16140164/Drawin ... 5%20SS.png
Very nice work, Colosseum.


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Post subject: Re: DD-445 FletcherPosted: March 12th, 2012, 2:26 pm
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wolfman you don't need to quote the entire picture!!


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Wolfman
Post subject: Re: DD-445 FletcherPosted: March 12th, 2012, 5:11 pm
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Any plans to do the post-war versions with the tripod foremast?


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Colosseum
Post subject: Re: DD-445 FletcherPosted: March 13th, 2012, 12:09 am
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Clonecommander6454 wrote:
Magnificent work! But what is the structure replacing the forward torpedo launcher onboard Kidd?
It's a small deckhouse with a Mark 51 director above it, directing the amidships 40mm Bofors. At this point the USN deemed AAW a bigger priority for DDs than anti-surface warfare, which could be handled by the copious amount of cruisers, battleships, and carrier-based aircraft then in service.
graham wrote:
Thanks Colo
These ships and immense logistic effort to design, build, equip modify let alone to supply the personnel with suitable training to man then supply them with fuel, food and ammunition during the war years is a feat many people just have no feel for these days.
Thank you for the immense amount of effort and research that you had to put in to do these drawings
Graham
Thanks, and I agree with how no one really understands the scale of the war effort. Seeing Task Force 38 at Ulithi, even in black and white, is a truly impressive sight.
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Any plans to do the post-war versions with the tripod foremast?
Not particularly, if someone wants to do DDE conversions they are more than welcome but I am more interested in fleshing out the USN of World War II than the post-war ships. You guys might think that all they changed was the addition of a "tripod foremast", but in my experience (and from investigating the post-war refits) I've found that I more often than not end up tearing down the entire superstructure above the hull to make sure everything's in the right place. Gun tubs move, aerials are switched around, bulwarks removed, etc and it all will affect the accuracy of the drawing if these things are not produced correctly down to the pixel. Therefore I choose not to bother most of the time -- I set a goal, such as "do the wartime ships and their refits" and leave it at that.

As always, my offer stands to provide Photoshop PSD working files with layers or stripped-down PNGs for conversion work, though not a single person who has said they're going to draw a derivative has taken me up on this... :/

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Post subject: Re: DD-445 FletcherPosted: March 13th, 2012, 2:23 am
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Okay, well that leaves 1 DD for me not to do, Colo, the Johnston was a Seattle-Tacoma Shipyards build, and I call dibs on the rest of them. If that's okay.

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Post subject: Re: DD-445 FletcherPosted: March 13th, 2012, 2:29 pm
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I'm only asking for the refit done to Cassin Young. Perhaps Navsource will be able to enlighten as to what I mean better than I can.


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Colosseum
Post subject: Re: DD-445 FletcherPosted: March 13th, 2012, 5:44 pm
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nighthunter wrote:
Okay, well that leaves 1 DD for me not to do, Colo, the Johnston was a Seattle-Tacoma Shipyards build, and I call dibs on the rest of them. If that's okay.
Erm, OK, I'm not sure what you're asking here -- did I miss one of the countless worklist threads that listed all Seattle-Tacoma built ships as yours?? Barring some unusual camouflage schemes and strange conversions (USS Pringle catapult-equipped DD comes to mind) I am just about finished with the Fletcher class, so I guess you are free to draw any individual ships you want.
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I'm only asking for the refit done to Cassin Young. Perhaps Navsource will be able to enlighten as to what I mean better than I can.
I am working on the Sumner and Gearing wartime ships right now. If I do any post-war refits they will come after I finish those.

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