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Haha, now I'm wondering if they'll come out with a ship named after Barack Obama.

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What makes Hilary Clinton realistic is because she's a Sec of State who's actually (arguably) done stuff plus she's more or less popular with significant portions of both parties. There are reasons why it's unlikely for Obama to get a ship named after him, and I hope this isn't sounding too political in what's becoming a very political thread - but the general sentiment is that he's driven away a lot of his former supporters while doing very little to bring new ones in. This is not the same thing as saying that this is a fault of the man, his administration or his policies, or an accusation of his detractors or those who do not agree with his policies - it's just an observation of the political climate.

But it is a commentary on the political process of determining what politicians get ships named for them. Yes, it's a popularity contest, but at the very basest, more core concept, popularity is a measure of effectiveness and no one's going to be clamouring for a ship to be named after an ineffective president (I challenge someone to show me evidence of a USS President Van Buren). Of course what isn't helping either individual is that they both lack Navy service (and they've advocated or have been behind policies that are not the most popular with the service branches).

...well I'll be damned.

Though I'd like to question the validity of both examples as one was in the revenue service (though I suppose still a commissioned ship) and the other was named after a city

Yes, I know that. My comments were not about ships named after the parks. I was commenting on exhibits within the parks sponsored by corporations. And I'm not saying thats a bad thing, getting additional money to preserve history.

Been studying naval history since the mid-60's. I hope I have figured out USN naming conventions by now.

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"If people never did silly things nothing intelligent would ever get done." ~Ludwig Wittgenstein

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Harold ... FF-1074%29

....and he was not an American. He had a US warship named for him because he supported LBJ's stance on the Vietnam war.

If you follow the links you'll see we actually lost this bloke in a swimming accident in December 1967. There are as many conspiracy theories on the disappearance of Harold Holt as there are surrounding the assassination of JFK.

Several of the SSBNs were named for individuals who were not U.S. citizens. Pulaski had an honorary US citizenship (he died before the US gained its independance). Simon Bolivar was not a US citizen, nor an honorary citizen. Tecumseh was an American Indian, and therefore throughly American, but was a citizen of the Shawnee tribe (Indians were not US citizens at the time) and in fact died in a British uniform fighting against the US Army. (Maybe the Navy like that he was fighting against the Army?) Likewise, Kamehameha was a native Hawaiian and not a US citizen having died several generations before the US annexation of Hawaii; he was not only a citizen of the Kingdom of Hawaii, he was the soverign ruler of that kingdom.

An apocryphal story is that Admiral Burke didn't want a ship named after him.

He was still alive, thank-you very much!