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Thiel
Post subject: Re: USS AtlantaPosted: February 15th, 2012, 3:16 pm
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I say go with the current view. It gives a much better impression on what's there and it just plain looks better.
What Erik says is technically correct, but that particular bit of the standards has by and large been abandoned.

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Post subject: Re: USS AtlantaPosted: February 15th, 2012, 3:21 pm
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also, rigging that has to support sails often can be rotated to get the wind an better angle of attack (weird way to put it in words,I know, my english knowledge leaves me atm) so while not as extreme as this, you can show the spars. that is the way I like most: with the spars in 45 degrees angle with the centerline..... but that also is about the hardest one to draw

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Post subject: Re: USS AtlantaPosted: February 15th, 2012, 4:01 pm
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Thanks for the advise, all of you. I'll be getting back to this once I finish a Doctor Who project my wife has set me upon. :P

I'm starting to think it may just have been easier to do a "sails only" version and leave it at that, but I wanted both sails and no sails. Eventually, I'd also like to do the Boston as she appeared during the Spanish-American war

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Post subject: Re: USS AtlantaPosted: February 15th, 2012, 4:08 pm
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Shows you what I know - I thought we were aligning yards port-and-starboard on shipbucket drawings. Never mind me...


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Post subject: Re: USS AtlantaPosted: February 15th, 2012, 7:59 pm
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I draw them port-and-starboard, but the majority of my drawings are of later model ships where yardarms and rigging aren't really of that much importance.

I think for these older ships and for sailing ships it's not bad practice, but for modern ships it's best to show them port-and-starboard.

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Post subject: Re: USS AtlantaPosted: February 16th, 2012, 5:15 am
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Updated the drawing, hopefully corrected the problems with the masts. Again, with the rigging, I just tried to follow photos from the period of the ship itself. In several cases, they had double lines, but I just did a single one represent the set, else it might turn into a big grey blob from all the multiple rigging lines. I also changed the color of the masts and spars from the yellow to black (dk. grey) as in the pics they appear quite a bit darker than the funnels.

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Post subject: Re: USS AtlantaPosted: February 16th, 2012, 8:26 am
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I've done both: angled and port-and-starboard; and while the first looks nice, the second is more accurate. Overall I'd agree with Colo, that for modern warships port-and-starboard seems more appropriate, but no rules now on this one :)


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Post subject: Re: USS AtlantaPosted: February 16th, 2012, 8:41 am
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OK, but how does this version look? :?

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Post subject: Re: USS AtlantaPosted: February 16th, 2012, 8:52 am
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Like I said before, stick to three-colour shading rather than five and tone down the shading on the funnel. Right now it looks like they have an almost mirror like reflective surface, rather than the matte yellow they had in reality.
You're missing the black waterline.
You have overlapping black pixels in the masts and under the boats that can be eliminated easily and the yards doesn't doesn't "line up" with the stays and wires.

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Post subject: Re: USS AtlantaPosted: February 16th, 2012, 9:24 am
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Thiel wrote:
You're missing the black waterline.
Not missing it. It didn't have that line.

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Thiel wrote:
the yards doesn't doesn't "line up" with the stays and wires.
Not sure what you mean, I've got the wires where they belong from what I can tell from the pictures.

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