Moderator: Community Manager
[Post Reply] [*]  Page 2 of 3  [ 24 posts ]  Go to page « 1 2 3 »
Author Message
sebu
Post subject: Re: Trimaran FACPosted: October 1st, 2010, 4:15 pm
Offline
Posts: 646
Joined: August 18th, 2010, 9:18 am
Thanks Colombamike for your comments. I agree about sam. Crotale may be to heavy for this so it's replaced with Mistral; perhaps I was too greedy concerning the armament. Also 12,7mm MG added.
This could be more streamlined but somehow I like "eyebrowses" on the bridge... Also the vessel is quite compact already so could it really be more stealthy, I don't know. You probably ment something like in Skjold or Visby? I'll make more stelthy version but I won't post it if I don't like it :) But you can if you wish... On the other hand I'm not sure what kind of radar, communications etc. would suit on this; any ideas?
Vessel of this size is not capable in winter conditions and I don't think monohull would be any better, right? Especially when materials probably should be aluminium/composite anyway. But possible opponents have the same problem too.
The crew must be quite small here; 10-15 men so I'd need 1-2 rafts. Could I use those pontoons for life-rafts and decoy launchers? Measurements of a pontoon is roughly 30mx1,5m. And could AMOS shoot also decoys?


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
Colombamike
Post subject: Re: Trimaran FACPosted: October 1st, 2010, 6:51 pm
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 1359
Joined: July 27th, 2010, 6:18 am
Location: France, Marseille
sebu wrote:
This could be more streamlined but somehow I like "eyebrowses" on the bridge... Also the vessel is quite compact already so could it really be more stealthy, I don't know. You probably ment something like in Skjold or Visby? I'll make more stelthy version but I won't post it if I don't like it :) But you can if you wish... On the other hand I'm not sure what kind of radar, communications etc. would suit on this; any ideas?
Yes, +/- similar to the Skjold/Visby design.
But this is YOUR DESIGN, YOUR CHOICE..; ;)
sebu wrote:
Vessel of this size is not capable in winter conditions and I don't think monohull would be any better, right? Especially when materials probably should be aluminium/composite anyway. But possible opponents have the same problem too.
I agree
sebu wrote:
The crew must be quite small here; 10-15 men so I'd need 1-2 rafts. Could I use those pontoons for life-rafts and decoy launchers?
2 rafts max, yes, I agree (usually +/- 6/9 sailors per raft......up to +/- 15/25 for some larger rafts models).
As usual, don't forget to add a % margin (in this case, a max of 3 life-rafts...)
sebu wrote:
Measurements of a pontoon is roughly 30mx1,5m. And could AMOS shoot also decoys?
A 120mm Mortar shell used for decoy, hmmm, I am not totally sure :?: , but technically not impossible...


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
Gollevainen
Post subject: Re: Trimaran FACPosted: October 1st, 2010, 7:09 pm
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 4714
Joined: July 27th, 2010, 5:10 am
Location: Finland
Contact: Website
Its looking Lot better allready (thougth the actuall camo pattern seems to be more close to the current army's camoflage than to the traditional naval scheme.)
Thougth in shipbucket, if you use the camoflage, you need also to color the railing in accompanying shade (the bitchiest part in the painting part)

Also, here are proper flags to use:

[ img ]

As for the suitability of Trimaran hull to finnish purpose, I think its rather good (thougth I would have gone for full Air cushioning or SES desing, but each with his own way ). For ice-strengthening, the ship needs to be heavily and strongly build and that means always extra tonnage and topweigth for small warship, and thus its not feasible to have fast patrol vessels ice-strengthed. In finnish navy, only the Ship class vessels (Minelayers) are ice strengthed.

_________________
Shipbucket mainsite, aka "The Archive"
New AU project "Aravala"


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
ALVAMA
Post subject: Re: Trimaran FACPosted: October 1st, 2010, 7:56 pm
Very interesting design!


Top
[Quote]
sebu
Post subject: Re: Trimaran FACPosted: October 1st, 2010, 9:28 pm
Offline
Posts: 646
Joined: August 18th, 2010, 9:18 am
Ok; rafts, MASS and brand new flag addad (thanks God for proper ensigns). Apparently lack of space is quite normal in this context...begin to realize that. And yes, camo is more like army pattern but I cannot copy all from your Hamina :) (now I noticed that railing might not be correctly fixed; I'll do it later)


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
Gollevainen
Post subject: Re: Trimaran FACPosted: October 2nd, 2010, 1:52 pm
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 4714
Joined: July 27th, 2010, 5:10 am
Location: Finland
Contact: Website
well actually Hamina is MConrads work that Ive shamlessly copied to Helsinki's and Raumas, so what goes around, comes around ;)

_________________
Shipbucket mainsite, aka "The Archive"
New AU project "Aravala"


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
Hood
Post subject: Re: Trimaran FACPosted: October 3rd, 2010, 11:16 am
Offline
Posts: 7233
Joined: July 31st, 2010, 10:07 am
A great looking little FAC, quite practical and it looks good too both in shipbucket terms and in overall looks.

Chaff/flare launchers are basically rifled mortars anyway so I can't see why a 120mm mortar wouldn't work (I'm sure Israel or some nation like that uses a 120mm mortar for just such a role).

_________________
Hood's Worklist
English Electric Canberra FD
Interwar RN Capital Ships
Super-Darings
Never-Were British Aircraft


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
moxica
Post subject: Re: Trimaran FACPosted: October 4th, 2010, 12:29 pm
Offline
Posts: 155
Joined: August 12th, 2010, 12:48 am
Location: Middle part of Sweden
Nice drawing! I really like that trimaran concept it gives alot of space on a short length!


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
sebu
Post subject: Re: Trimaran FACPosted: October 6th, 2010, 9:09 am
Offline
Posts: 646
Joined: August 18th, 2010, 9:18 am
Still one, more streamlined version as promised. And it, eh... looks better...


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
Colombamike
Post subject: Re: Trimaran FACPosted: October 6th, 2010, 6:50 pm
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 1359
Joined: July 27th, 2010, 6:18 am
Location: France, Marseille
deleted


Last edited by Colombamike on March 30th, 2011, 6:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
[Profile] [Quote]
Display: Sort by: Direction:
[Post Reply]  Page 2 of 3  [ 24 posts ]  Return to “Beginners Only” | Go to page « 1 2 3 »

Jump to: 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


The team | Delete all board cookies | All times are UTC


Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited
[ GZIP: Off ]