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I'd love to see her.

Same here...been meaning to go see her one of these days.

-Matt

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Seeing as how you live in Corinth, (and yes, I know exactly where that is; I spent some summers in the Golden Triangle growing up), the Alabama would be a closer visit, and the Texas isn't too far off, either. IIRC, there are also some landlocked subs and a tin can up the Mississippi and Missouri rivers.

I'm probably one of the luckier ones here, as I have a battleship in my back yard!

Lets not forget about the USS Yorktown (CV-10) and CSS Hunley up in Charleston SC. I got to tour the Yorktown last summer, but the Hunley exhibit was closed the week I was there. That was when they were getting it ready to turn it upright instead of the angle they had it at.

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I will never go see the Hunley exhibit. She was a war grave and should have no more been refloated than the Arizona or the Yamato. It sickens me that the government allowed it in the first place, and be darned if they get a dime of support out of me for it.

Having been born and raised in Houston, Texas, I've been to all the ship museums in that great state, visiting the Texas herself three times. As for the Alabama, I imagine I'll be going to see her soon; my fiancee - incredible woman that she is - is actually considering the ship's Officer's Wardroom or the Fantail as a wedding venue.

-Matt

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I'll admit that I've never understood that mentality, but that's probably because I'm from a much different culture.
To me, leaving sailors on the bottom in unmarked wrecks is the same as leaving soldiers were they fall. In my opinion the most honourable thing to do is to salvage the ships and put the crew in proper marked graves.
And putting their ships on display makes it certain that their sacrifice isn't forgotten.

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If I recall correctly, they had quite a nice ceremony for the sailors when the Hunley was raised, including re-enactors in CS uniform and all. They were given the full honor and respect they deserved.

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Most excellent lady you have found there. Congratulations!

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Thiel and Zephyr,

It isn't about bands playing, or people in uniform, or 'due honors rendered.' It has little to do with my political beliefs, those of the Hunley's crew, or those of anyone alive either then or today. This is someone coming and digging up your family member's grave and calling it 'archeology.' When Bob Ballard first found Titanic, this was one of the things he found.

He didn't say 'oh, let's take these back to England and bury them, symbolically returning the dead home.' He didn't try to make a three ring circus out of the event. What he did was respectfully leave well enough alone- even trying to keep the location of the wreck secret to such an extent it could not be plundered... so the owner of those shoes could rest in peace.

Not lost, but found.
Not forgotten, but respectfully remembered.

As a soldier, I can say that there is no dishonor in being buried (more or less) where you fell.

What is so dishonorable about this? These are all Americans, and they lie in the French soil where they died. Now, they weren't left strewn like sticks after a hurricane, but neither were they returned home amidst pomp and circumstance. They remain on eternal guard where they sacrificed their life, a reminder of the price paid for that soil. Neither the soldiers who are there, nor the people who are content to leave them there are done any dishonor. Indeed, I was taught by my Grandfather- who possibly climbed that same hill on his way to Germany- that there were few greater honors a man could earn.

Maybe it's just me... but, then again, maybe it's not: And with that, I'll stop totally sidetracking the thread.

One last thought on nautical archaeology: why is it O.K. to
dig up a roman tireme or a galleon or even a ship from the
1700's in the interest of recovering gold or silver, or ancient
jars of wine and olive oil, etc., but somehow it is sacreligious
to disturb the remains of sunken ships from only the last 100
years? How old does a shipwreck have to be before no one
wants to preserve it as a gravesite?