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Bombhead
Post subject: Re: HMS VanguardPosted: October 4th, 2010, 6:34 pm
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Thanks mates.If you would like to use it for a re-fit Bill please feel free 8-)


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Post subject: Re: HMS VanguardPosted: October 4th, 2010, 6:43 pm
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Yes! One of my favourite ships; much maligned. Even E.H.H. Archibald denigrated her as 'Rearguard'....'a new battleship with her great-aunts teeth'. In fact she had a superb hull, the best of her generation. And re the 'teeth' they were one of the best all-round guns for reliability (more than we can say for more modern mounts) and they had been upgraded for greater reach. Of course she was too expensive for a bankrupt GB, so she earned her notoreity as the floating gin palace.

And I'm amazed! You can't have just dashed this off!!! :o I haven't had time yet to study her in detail, but you've got the hull right - good stuff :D


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Post subject: Re: HMS VanguardPosted: October 4th, 2010, 6:49 pm
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No I've been playing about with it for months and not really getting anywhere untill last week.


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Post subject: Re: HMS VanguardPosted: October 4th, 2010, 7:56 pm
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That is a beauty! A tremendous piece of work. You must have worked hard. I can't find many faults and you've used the correct turrets and 5.25in turrets and everything. You've come a long way since you joined and this just tops the bill as my fave drawing of late (pushing even the Kirov aside).

One nitpick. I thought the 40mm mount atop B turret was a twin mount rather than a sextuple mount. I'm pretty sure it should be a twin. During the Royal Tour of 1949 it was removed and a saluting plaform put in its place.

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Thiel
Post subject: Re: HMS VanguardPosted: October 4th, 2010, 8:16 pm
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You are right Hood. Based on the drawing Bill linked to, I believe it should be a STAAG, not a mk VI.
The grey lines at the front end of the main belt should be connected to a boat skeet and two ladders should lead down to it.
There should be a small structure that looks like a radio shack abeam of the sternmost 40mm single, and the 40mm near the aft gangway sould be a bit further forward.

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Post subject: Re: HMS VanguardPosted: October 4th, 2010, 8:59 pm
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Hood is right. From the link by PB you can see a good plan provided by Paul_541 which has also a top view.
The 40mm mounting on-top of B turret is STAAG, the only one which HMS Vanguard had.

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Post subject: Re: HMS VanguardPosted: October 4th, 2010, 9:09 pm
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Looks very nice.

Please remember to update the Mk.37-derived fire control radars to their newest edition. The turret bits of them on this drawing are of the old iteration which aren't very detailed.

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Post subject: Re: HMS VanguardPosted: October 4th, 2010, 10:38 pm
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Thiel I didn't quite get the bit about the boat skeet and ladders. :?


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Post subject: Re: HMS VanguardPosted: October 5th, 2010, 3:37 am
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This drawing seems to use the shading pattern with the light source somewhat forward of 'high noon' (to be clear, my preferred variation). However, this means that the rear-facing 5.25" turrets should be shaded differently from the forward-facing ones. Likewise the 15" turrets.

And I echo about Colo's better Mk 37.

Otherwise fantastic work.


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Post subject: Re: HMS VanguardPosted: October 5th, 2010, 4:33 pm
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