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Updated parts!!!!

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Of course you mean radars etc.Anyway,are Elli family right?

I am not commenting on anything until you update the parts to the latest standard. I have listed them all before, I am not going to do that again.

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I edited woth some updating.About the Mk48 VLS,which to use?Is possible to have more cells for 24 missiles,or 16 as Bremen has?

Although these ships are AU,are very close to real ones owned by Hellenic Navy.Designed and built by Anastasiades-Tsortanides Shipyard in late 1970's,the first 2 are Lighthouse Tenders (in HLK the Navy is responsible for lighthouses,as in real Greece) and the sole Nautilos is a Maritime Research Vessel owned by the Hydrographic Service of RHN.

Some specs (for my AU ships,real ships in http://www.hellenicnavy.gr)

Displacement: 1450tn
Length: 65.3m
Beam: 11.6m
Draught: 4.0m
Propulsion: 2 X GENME 6R-BW130,2640hp (based on Burmeister & Wain design),2 props + one small azipod for very slow speeds
Crew : 66 (including 5 officers)
Speed : 15kn max,crusing 13kn
Equipment for hydrographic missions as real ships.

The LT can accomodate a light helicopter in her helipad,usually a AS-319 III.

An AU Submarine Rescue Ship designed and built from the same shipyard in 1984.

Specifications

Length: 82.12m
Beam : 13.8m
Draught : 4.0m
Displacement: 1950t full load
Propulsion : 2 X GENME 6R-BW20,2030hp each,2 props + small azipod with hydraulic motor (similar with Nautilos MRV)
Speed : 18.5kn max,economic speed 17kn
Equipment: 1 X ROV LR5H

These Missile Destroyers started the long cooperation of RHN with Nederlands back in 1960's.Instead of going for an AAW conversion of the cruisers Nikiforos Fokas Class (which designed and built in mid 1930's),the Command of Black Sea decide to have a new DDG,capable to serve for at least 30 years.USA proposed the Brooke Class Frigate but this did not covered the demands,since she could not have the SSM Adis I.The local shipyard proposed a DDG based on Forrest Sherman Class,but also this project ditched.So,the Command looked in Europe and find the Tromp AAW Destroyer,a then joint program between Nederlands and United Kingdom.Four ships built in Messimvria Shipyard in 1969-1977 with several differences from their Dutch cousins (the fifth cancelled just before the construction started).The first two built was an ASW variant equipped with 8 SSM Adis I (OMI-24A) and a Albatros/Aspide short range AAW system and the next was the AAW variant with SAM Mk13/SM-1.All have the Signaal SPS-01 radar and the distinctive side mounted funnels of the 1964/1966 Tromp since this was the design base.In their heyday were among the most advanced ships in Black Sea and still going strong after their modernisation program in early 1990's.
The Messimvria Class was the first large surface unis of RHN powered entirely by gas turbines and one of the 2 Classes of large units featured the SNECMA/Aerodyne Atar Marine gas turbine.The entire project was so expensive (together with the Aerotech A-38) that took the Autonomous Territories Defense Fund near to bankrupty.

Specifications(AAW Variant)

Displacement : 4350tn
Length : 138m
Beam : 14.8m
Draught : 6.6m
Propulsion : GOGAG,2 X SNECMA/Aerodyne J850,17200hp + 2 X SNECMA/Aerodyne J2100,43600hp Gas Turbines,2 props
Speed : Maximum 33kn,cruising 20kn
Range : 4200km / 20kn
Complement : 312

Sensors and processing systems (as built)

1 X Multifuction Radar Signaal SPS-01
1 X MW-22 fire control radar
2 X SPG-51C tracking radars

Armament (as built)

1 X US Ordnance Mk42 Mod 10 5"/54 cal. gun
2 X 3 Mk32 TT 324mm
1 X SAM Mk13 with 40 SM-1 missiles
2 X 0.5" HMG

Aviation facilities : Hangar for 1 X AB212 helicopter (ASW,EW or ASuW)

the ASW variant won't work, first of all because of topweight and second because it's design is completely unfitting, not to speak about the radar fit.
the AAW variant should work, although I have to check some parts (mostly the gun mount and the mast position)
also, on both variants some details need fixing, for example the wires that end in mid-air.

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The weight of 8 Adis missiles is 13.3 tn,perhaps have to be reduced to 4(done).In comprison with the 1964 Tromp this mast is further front and lighter,taken from the real Tromp.For surface radar,the LW-02 is a good choice?
I found in book online some details about Dutch radars,but for the SPS-01 did not had information about its range.Is it equivalent with the SPS-39/52?
What other details does the ASW variant needs?

http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Al ... 1%20AU.gif
This is an non AAW variant of Tromp with SPS-01,with Sea King helicopter and different superstructure.What about that?

I think I have two more choices for an ASW destroyer:One European (a variant of the Halland DD,something between the Colombian and the AU Karlstand of New Holstein) and the other is variant of the Allen Sumner DD (for this scenario RHN received 3 Allen Sumners instead of one).