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APDAF
Post subject: Re: Gotrige Super Dreadnought HGrMS Sverkre GripPosted: December 11th, 2011, 1:56 pm
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Not that one. :roll:

This one.

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Post subject: Re: Gotrige Super Dreadnought HGrMS Sverkre GripPosted: December 11th, 2011, 2:04 pm
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Post subject: Re: Gotrige Super Dreadnought HGrMS Sverkre GripPosted: December 11th, 2011, 2:11 pm
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APDAF wrote:
That one does not use one double superfiring two tripples. Either it's four doubles, for tripples, or two doubbles superfiring two tripples or vice versa.
I meant an upgunning would be more like this:
3 = tripple turret
2 = double turret
A = superstructure
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Post subject: Re: Gotrige Super Dreadnought HGrMS Sverkre GripPosted: December 11th, 2011, 2:44 pm
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to be honest, this ship seems more similar to the N3 design http://www.shipbucket.com/images.php?di ... gn%201.png, as the Nelson's basic design was really based on the restrictions of the washington treaty. this was what made the ship underpowered and give it it's turret arrangement like that. keep that in mind before you go on in designing this ship ;)

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Post subject: Re: Gotrige Super Dreadnought HGrMS Sverkre GripPosted: December 11th, 2011, 3:11 pm
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Some parts have been taken from other's drawings, mainly small parts, and most have been modifyed in some manor
If you use parts taken from other peoples drawings, yes you should credit.

Nice drawing btw.

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Post subject: Re: Gotrige Super Dreadnought HGrMS Sverkre GripPosted: December 11th, 2011, 3:20 pm
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KHT wrote:
APDAF wrote:
That one does not use one double superfiring two tripples. Either it's four doubles, for tripples, or two doubbles superfiring two tripples or vice versa.
I meant an upgunning would be more like this:
3 = tripple turret
2 = double turret
A = superstructure
3A23
Clear as tar?
What?
Can you clear that up please.

And mine uses four tripples turrets.


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Portsmouth Bill
Post subject: Re: Gotrige Super Dreadnought HGrMS Sverkre GripPosted: December 11th, 2011, 3:27 pm
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If you use parts taken from other peoples drawings, yes you should credit.
No, that is not the requirement; and, for the umpteenth time: If you adapt an existing drawing, or use the hull, then yes, you must credit the original author first, but not for 'parts'; parts here meaning such items as gun turrets, ship's boats, gun directors/radars etc. etc. In fact the parts sheets have been compiled (in part) from lots of existing drawings.


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Post subject: Re: Gotrige Super Dreadnought HGrMS Sverkre GripPosted: December 11th, 2011, 3:37 pm
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jabba wrote:
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Some parts have been taken from other's drawings, mainly small parts, and most have been modifyed in some manor
If you use parts taken from other peoples drawings, yes you should credit.

Nice drawing btw.
Well... i have gotten very unclear information on this subject. Or rather, I've been given an excellent amount of advice - some even going against other advice!
The way I have been "tought", big parts like superstructure, hull, bow, stern etc. should be given credits, while boats, guns/turrets, etc souldn't be credited(albeit probably mentioned). I will add credit in the next post though.
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APDAF wrote:
That one does not use one double superfiring two tripples. Either it's four doubles, for tripples, or two doubbles superfiring two tripples or vice versa.
I meant an upgunning would be more like this:
3 = tripple turret
2 = double turret
A = superstructure
3A23
Clear as tar?
What?
Can you clear that up please.

And mine uses four tripples turrets.
Ok, I will try to clear this up.
You thought I should upgrade to 3x3 turrets instead of 3x2.
I didn't want to, and said any upgunning would involve only the two deck-level turrets would be made tripples(2x3, 1x2), with the superfiring one remaining a double.
You said this would make my design like "your superdreadnought".
I questioned this, and asked for a link. You provided one.
I assumed you ment you had made a superdreadnought with two tripple turrets and one superfiring double. That said, your design didn't even closely resembled that artillery arrangement, an arrangement which you claimed to have used.

Are we clear....? :evil:

EDIT: I noticed that Portsmouth Bill came before me in the crediting issue. If you, Jabba, really wan't me to credit you(I stole your props), then I will do so, if you do not mention it further, I will take it as you silent approval of me not crediting them to you.


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Post subject: Re: Gotrige Super Dreadnought HGrMS Sverkre GripPosted: December 11th, 2011, 3:44 pm
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EDIT: I noticed that Portsmouth Bill came before me in the crediting issue. If you, Jabba, really wan't me to credit you(I stole your props), then I will do so, if you do not mention it further, I will take it as you silent approval of me not crediting them to you.
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jabba
Post subject: Re: Gotrige Super Dreadnought HGrMS Sverkre GripPosted: December 11th, 2011, 4:21 pm
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If it's just props then shit, don't worry about it mate!

Sorry PB I should have said 'bits' or something instead of parts (parts in the SB sense meaning specifically weapons, props, radars etc). I was referring to, as you said, things like hulls, superstructures etc.

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