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Post subject: Re: Kriegsmarine 1946, second approachPosted: November 25th, 2011, 3:41 am
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What happens to them in this timeline? Are they preserved as museum ships or scrapped?

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Post subject: Q-class BCG 1952Posted: November 28th, 2011, 1:47 pm
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A late conversion of the Q-class BC. All heavy guns are removed, four DP-turrets do the shelling. All light aa is removed, four 3cm quad full-auto turrets installed. Armament consists now from 2x2 A17m SSMs, 4x3 Geier-launcher (rocket launched self guiding torpedo), 1x2 Taifun SAM launcher (short-medium range anti air missile), 2x2 Tornado SAM launcher (medium-long range anti air missile). The armament shows a phase of militairy evolution, when the believe in the superiority of radarguided missiles replaced the gun-covered big cruisers. Of course a Q-class BCG IS a big cruiser, but that's germanish :-)
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Btw. the Tornado is simply a A7m as first/second stage with an adopted Taifun SAM as third stage, but with a combined radar/heat-detecting head.
No, 1952 is not to early, this is AU!

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Post subject: Re: Kriegsmarine 1946, second approachPosted: November 28th, 2011, 2:43 pm
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Me likey...very nice work!

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Post subject: Flottenbegleiter 1946Posted: November 29th, 2011, 10:07 am
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An Evolution of the Flottenbegleiter-class DE. Now with 12,8cm DPs and camo and some minor errors deleted.
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I think the escort-mission of the Flottenbegleiter would have been changed to a convoyescort and subhunter-role. For the mission of escorting the big ships at overseas-missions the Flottenbegleiter is simply to small.

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Post subject: Destroyer 1946 class, 2nd batchPosted: November 29th, 2011, 1:20 pm
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The 1946 destroyer class, 2nd batch. The 15cm twins and 3" twins are replaced by 12,8cm DPs and sonar are added. Standard torpedotubes are replaced by 'Geier'-launchers. The ship is painted in '46 camo.
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I've read the 'Marine Arsenal - Hamburg class destroyers' from which the Z1946-class is devolved. No, the superstructures on original Hamburgs were not too top-heavy. The ships were very good to handle, even at stormy weather. The Z1946s superstructures are one deck lower, the overall wight might be a few dozen tons lower, but that's all. I believe the Z1946 are balanced very well now and capable to do a lot of missions like much more modern ships are.

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Post subject: Re: Kriegsmarine 1946, second approachPosted: November 29th, 2011, 1:35 pm
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Somehow the Flottenbegleiter reminds me of the IJNS Tomozuru

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Post subject: Z1946-class Z95 Julius RingelPosted: November 29th, 2011, 2:23 pm
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The final ship of the class, Z95 'Julius Ringel', was completed with a A7m-twin-launcher replacing turret b. Container with another four missiles where set on both sides beside the bridge. Light aa consisted now from 2 3cm-quads in new full auto turrets with ammo fed from below. Radars are changed to serve the A7m-missiles. After proving ok, the whole second batch was refitted like Z95.
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Post subject: Re: Kriegsmarine 1946, second approachPosted: November 29th, 2011, 2:36 pm
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Thiel wrote:
Somehow the Flottenbegleiter reminds me of the IJNS Tomozuru
The Flottenbegleiter is finally a Flottentorpedoboot 1944 with only one funnel and without torpedoes, pimped to KM'46 design. It has no real plans I would know of.
Tomozuru is a real DE, larger and armed with torps.

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Post subject: Re: Kriegsmarine 1946, second approachPosted: November 29th, 2011, 5:39 pm
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I enjoy dipping in here: nicely drawn ships with a realistic apperance and background :) . My only criticism is the blue shading on hulls :(


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Post subject: Blue camo and the stripesPosted: December 1st, 2011, 8:46 am
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Portsmouth Bill wrote:
My only criticism is the blue shading on hulls
The blue shading is the 1946 invasion camo. After defeating the UK, the blue shading is replaced by the usual grey but the victory stripes are added at the bow.

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