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Post subject: Re: Swedish Dreadnought(first attempt at SB style drawing)Posted: November 20th, 2011, 10:24 pm
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Hmmm...promising, but 'tween-deck height just doesn't seem enough. Also the boats seem way too small. Color is too dark for Kungliga Flottan. You may elect to apply a dazzle-pattern or something. Finally, being a Swedish vessel, I'd go with a whaleback focs'le and icebreaker bow - and underwater hull!) And, like a few have pointed out, but that's the easiest of fixes, just use the equipment sheet or 'cannibalize' other, contemporary ships for it - add details!
What exactly should be counted as "details"?


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Post subject: Re: Swedish Dreadnought(first attempt at SB style drawing)Posted: November 20th, 2011, 10:33 pm
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What exactly should be counted as "details"?
Life rings, vent piping, maybe lights. I'd look at ships from that era in the archive and see what you can come up with. I will say that ships of this era were relativly detail sparse as opposed to later ships.

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Post subject: Re: Swedish Dreadnought(first attempt at SB style drawing)Posted: November 21st, 2011, 7:03 pm
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And here we've reached stage 1.5 of the process. As you see, there are two ships: One with multi hue shading, one without. I prefer the multi hue-version, but have heard using MUS disqualifies it for shipbucket standard. I'll let you be the judge.
And yes, those different funnels were entirely intentional. When the original funnels (which look good at the multi hue-version) were de-hued they just looked really boring, so I spiced them up with more South Carolina-ish looks. It's not very proffensional, but it looks better.
Biggest differance include added details really. Among other things she has a name sign now. Ain't it purty? I've also added two UW TTs.
Well, have a look, and ignore my ramblings for now! Hope you like it! :D
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Also, as I'd like to avoid making to much use of 'attachements', if someone could help me a bit with Photobucket it would be much appreatiated. When ever I upload pics there they are made smaller, and lose their detail and scale. I've seen though that most others do just fine. What do?
Thanks for any tips!


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Post subject: Re: Swedish Dreadnought(first attempt at SB style drawing)Posted: November 21st, 2011, 7:09 pm
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Post subject: Re: Swedish Dreadnought(first attempt at SB style drawing)Posted: November 21st, 2011, 7:19 pm
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This is a great beginners drawing, welcome to SB KHT!

While I can't comment on Swedish ship design, I can help you get it to SB standards.
-The railings should be slightly darker than the hull colour. Like the ladders fore and aft.
-Windows should be outlined in black.
-The shading on the armour belt should probable be lighter than the hull colour, due to the angle it is.
-Shading could be added to the edges of the funnels to show curvature.
-Shading also on the turrets.

Hope this is some help mate!

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Post subject: Re: Swedish Dreadnought(first attempt at SB style drawing)Posted: November 21st, 2011, 7:34 pm
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A very fine 1st attempt KHT.With the improvements mentioned earlier to bring her up to SB standards this will be really good mate.I look forward to see more of your drawings. ;)


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Post subject: Re: Swedish Dreadnought(first attempt at SB style drawing)Posted: November 21st, 2011, 7:37 pm
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Also, though the sweeping curve at the midbreak is very attractive, it might be difficult to produce such a feature within the upper belt. Perhaps a less rounded feature might be appropriate, or at least ending that particular section of the belt short of the curved plating?

All in all, a beautiful vessel!


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Post subject: Re: Swedish Dreadnought(first attempt at SB style drawing)Posted: November 21st, 2011, 8:18 pm
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Much better, but the C deck (the level above the B gun) isn't nearly tall enough. There should be at least 14 pixels (7 feet) between decks.

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Post subject: Re: Swedish Dreadnought(first attempt at SB style drawing)Posted: November 21st, 2011, 8:48 pm
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i use 17 to 18 pixels!


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Post subject: Re: Swedish Dreadnought(first attempt at SB style drawing)Posted: November 21st, 2011, 9:33 pm
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jabba wrote:
This is a great beginners drawing, welcome to SB KHT!

While I can't comment on Swedish ship design, I can help you get it to SB standards.
-The railings should be slightly darker than the hull colour. Like the ladders fore and aft.
-Windows should be outlined in black.
-The shading on the armour belt should probable be lighter than the hull colour, due to the angle it is.
-Shading could be added to the edges of the funnels to show curvature.
-Shading also on the turrets.

Hope this is some help mate!
Will do. Any advice is of help!
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Also, though the sweeping curve at the midbreak is very attractive, it might be difficult to produce such a feature within the upper belt. Perhaps a less rounded feature might be appropriate, or at least ending that particular section of the belt short of the curved plating?

All in all, a beautiful vessel!
... Midbreak? Hehehe...(awkward laughter) :D
Thiel wrote:
Much better, but the C deck (the level above the B gun) isn't nearly tall enough. There should be at least 14 pixels (7 feet) between decks.
Couldn't have mentioned that sooner? ;)
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i use 17 to 18 pixels!
It will be about 15 pixels, I could say straight of in advance. That's what I can pull of at max without having to heighten the barbette for B turret, which is something I want to avoid.

Thank you all for your advice, I will make sure to apply as many of them as I can! :D


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