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LOL... that's hardly a detailed explanation... but maybe I'll do a truly detailed one since it seems there is interest.

I've built a lot of ships with Springsharp; I enjoy illustrating them too- though my skills are not exactly up to SB specs... but I'm trying to remedy that. I'm part of a group that is doing a navy building sim kind of like WesWorld that will be starting soon. This is our second game; in the previous game, I was a nation almost totally, but not completely, unlike the Confederate States of America.

I'm thinking about a British 'Dominion' version of the ship- something that might have been built as a coast defense ship for a nation like India, Australia or South Africa.

Well, Nighthunter asked me to come up with a competing design, and while this isn't my best work, I do think it offers certain advantages over the competition. That said, from a strictly USN mindset, I do believe that the PG-52 design is superior. What I created ended up being more of a European style Colonial Aviso or Sloop.

My feelings in regards to the superior points of the design, are the advantages of mounting the main armament aft, as that alievates the need for superfiring forward, allowing the forward superstructure to be lower. I also used a cut down cruiser design opposed to a compacted DD one, though I'm left uncertain as to the actual advantages of that.

In speaking with Nighthunter, his main recommendation was to make the forecastle more DD-like, but my various attempts to do so didn't look right, so for the moment, I'm keeping the cruiser style bow. My feelings are a vessel of this sort is more apt to feature 6" guns like Erie, and I'd be tempted to use mounts like those on the Omaha class, (or "Omahahahahas" to quote Tiornu) The London Treaty stated the following:

Article 8

Subject to any special agreements which may submit them to limitation, the following vessels are exempt from limitation:


(a) Naval surface combatant vessels of 600 tons (610 metric tons) standard displacement and under;


(b) Naval surface combatant vessels exceeding 600 tons (610 metric tons), but not exceeding 2,000 tons (2,032 metric tons) standard displacement, provided they have none of the following characteristics:


(1) Mount a gun above 6.1 inch (155 mm) calibre;


(2) Mount more than four guns above 3 inch (76 mm) calibre;


(3) Are designed or fitted to launch torpedoes;


(4) Are designed for a speed greater than twenty knots.

I do however see the DP armament as being more useful overall, and during wartime, with additional AA armament fitted could be useful as AA vessels performing close AA protection for convoys, particuliarly on the Murmansk run. Their comparatively slow speed is a limiting factor, being slower than surfaced U-boats, but for close escort of mercantile vessels in the 8-12 kt range, they should be effective.

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What speed can it make? You'll need at least a five knot overtake on the convoy in order to be able to manouvre without slowing it down.

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Looking at 20kts max, with an average cruising speed of 12-14.

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We can't stop here--this is Bat country!

If it's close enough to cast a shadow, I think the flying house wins initiative.

Bronies are like the Forsworn. Everyone agrees that they are a problem but nobody wants to expend the energy rooting them out.

"That is a very graphic analogy which aids understanding wonderfully while being, strictly speaking, wrong in every possible way."

That should be plenty then.
As far as I'm aware, none of the U-boats were capable of more than ~18kts on the surface, giving you at least a 1.5kts speed advantage in calm seas.

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Most U-Boats were good for 17 kts surfaced in calm seas. One must remember that the first mass-produced escort (Flower class) were rated at 16 kts at best
Good drawing Obsydian Shade, here, but it has more characteristics of a US ship than any other (though the mast and fighting-top have a somewhat Germanic look to them).

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The fighting top was mostly in consideration of the traditional gunboat role, giving a bit of extra height for spotting when unloading on the natives. The gun director probably needs replaced with a later one, like on Nighthunter's vessel, but I'm actually uncertain when that specific model entered service, and I recall reading that the model on the Porter Class was a rather elaborate setup for destroyers at the time, and I figured it would do well enough for this type of vessel.

I tried in deferrance to Nighthunter's request to make the vessel with as many American parts as possible, but where we differed was the hull, which isn't even remotely USN, rather it's been cut down from a Chinese cruiser, giving the vessel (to my eyes, at least) a rather foreign cast, despite the amount of USN style superstructure. My original version appeared distinctly Spanish, or South American looking.

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We can't stop here--this is Bat country!

If it's close enough to cast a shadow, I think the flying house wins initiative.

Bronies are like the Forsworn. Everyone agrees that they are a problem but nobody wants to expend the energy rooting them out.

"That is a very graphic analogy which aids understanding wonderfully while being, strictly speaking, wrong in every possible way."

I will probably end up using mine in my Pacific Northwest AU as a standard escort and patrol vessel for it. (The AU is based on Red Horse's Texas AU with Washington Oregon Idaho and most of British Columbia being its own country)

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May I then attempt a China Station variant?

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I wouldn't mind doing an Australian version, if that's okay of course

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