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Psilander
Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: September 17th, 2011, 9:19 pm
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New overview layout for the FACs and other light units.

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: September 17th, 2011, 10:33 pm
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Great work... The small usefull ships that never get the attention they deserve..


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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: September 18th, 2011, 8:03 am
AWESOME!!!


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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: September 18th, 2011, 6:30 pm
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Three monitors beloning to the Archipelgo Fleet. (hence the all blue ensign)

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Björn, Sweden Monitor laid down 1870

Displacement:
689 t light; 793 t standard; 800 t normal; 805 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(159,12 ft / 150,92 ft) x 26,25 ft x (9,84 / 9,90 ft)
(48,50 m / 46,00 m) x 8,00 m x (3,00 / 3,02 m)

Armament:
2 - 10,83" / 275 mm 20,0 cal guns - 524,46lbs / 237,89kg shells, 150 per gun
Muzzle loading guns in Coles/Ericsson turret mount, 1880 Model
1 x 2-gun mount on centreline amidships (forward deck)
16 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 0,44lbs / 0,20kg shells, 150 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1880 Model
4 x Quad mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 056 lbs / 479 kg

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 2,36" / 60 mm 90,55 ft / 27,60 m 6,14 ft / 1,87 m
Ends: 2,36" / 60 mm 60,33 ft / 18,39 m 6,14 ft / 1,87 m
Upper: 2,36" / 60 mm 90,55 ft / 27,60 m 3,28 ft / 1,00 m
Main Belt covers 92 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 11,8" / 300 mm 7,87" / 200 mm -
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 0,39" / 10 mm
Forecastle: 0,39" / 10 mm Quarter deck: 0,39" / 10 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 7,87" / 200 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 1 shaft, 169 ihp / 126 Kw = 8,00 kts
Range 500nm at 4,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 13 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
74 - 97

Cost:
£0,073 million / $0,292 million
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Fenris, Sweden Monitor laid down 1872

Displacement:
1 736 t light; 1 938 t standard; 1 956 t normal; 1 970 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(249,34 ft / 246,06 ft) x 39,37 ft x (9,84 / 9,91 ft)
(76,00 m / 75,00 m) x 12,00 m x (3,00 / 3,02 m)

Armament:
4 - 10,83" / 275 mm 20,0 cal guns - 486,03lbs / 220,46kg shells, 150 per gun
Muzzle loading guns in Coles/Ericsson turret mounts, 1872 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, evenly spread
16 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 0,41lbs / 0,19kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1872 Model
4 x Quad mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 951 lbs / 885 kg

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 2,36" / 60 mm 147,64 ft / 45,00 m 7,51 ft / 2,29 m
Ends: 2,36" / 60 mm 98,39 ft / 29,99 m 7,51 ft / 2,29 m
Upper: 2,36" / 60 mm 147,64 ft / 45,00 m 4,92 ft / 1,50 m
Main Belt covers 92 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 11,8" / 300 mm 7,87" / 200 mm -
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 0,39" / 10 mm
Forecastle: 0,39" / 10 mm Quarter deck: 0,39" / 10 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 7,87" / 200 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 1 shaft, 317 ihp / 236 Kw = 8,00 kts
Range 500nm at 4,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 32 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
146 - 191

Cost:
£0,153 million / $0,610 million
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Cerberus, Sweden Monitor laid down 1898

Displacement:
2 942 t light; 3 137 t standard; 3 200 t normal; 3 250 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
246,06 ft / 246,06 ft x 59,06 ft x 9,84 ft (normal load)
75,00 m / 75,00 m x 18,00 m x 3,00 m

Armament:
2 - 10,83" / 275 mm guns (1x2 guns), 634,55lbs / 287,83kg shells, 1898 Model
Breech loading guns in a turret (on a barbette)
on centreline amidships
4 - 4,72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52,72lbs / 23,91kg shells, 1898 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side ends, evenly spread
6 - 2,24" / 57,0 mm guns in single mounts, 5,65lbs / 2,56kg shells, 1898 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
6 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm guns in single mounts, 0,24lbs / 0,11kg shells, 1898 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 515 lbs / 687 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7,87" / 200 mm 114,83 ft / 35,00 m 9,22 ft / 2,81 m
Ends: 1,38" / 35 mm 86,09 ft / 26,24 m 9,22 ft / 2,81 m
45,14 ft / 13,76 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 1,38" / 35 mm 159,94 ft / 48,75 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m
Main Belt covers 72 % of normal length
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7,87" / 200 mm 5,91" / 150 mm 7,87" / 200 mm
2nd: 1,77" / 45 mm 2,95" / 75 mm -

- Armour deck: 1,97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 3,94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 1 614 ihp / 1 204 Kw = 12,00 kts
Range 1 000nm at 8,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 113 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
212 - 276

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: September 18th, 2011, 6:55 pm
Those are excellent.


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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: September 18th, 2011, 6:56 pm
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is this blue ensign your own invention or real historical feature?

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: September 18th, 2011, 7:11 pm
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The all blue ensign was used by the IRL swedish "army's fleet" or "archipelago fleet" between 1761-1823, mostly the units based at Sveaborg.

IRL blue ensign at Sjöhistoriska museet

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: September 18th, 2011, 7:13 pm
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intresting, never heard of that before. So in your AU it would be retained after 1820's? And the armeeflottan concept would remain into modern days?

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: September 19th, 2011, 8:59 am
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Psilander wrote:
New overview layout for the FACs and other light units.

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Very nice link!Since I tried to do a corvette for my Swedish Navy without a result, the Typ 85 seems adequate.Could I use it?


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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: September 19th, 2011, 12:36 pm
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@Golly: well, my plan is that the "archipelago fleet" survived and made good service during the recapture of Finland in 1855-56, especially as an offensive amphibious force. They also man the coastal fortresses where the monitors are used as flank defense. The "Archipelago fleet" will form the "Royal Swedish Marines" and "Coastal artillery Corps" in the early 20th century. The Blue ensign will be kept for ships beloning to the diffrent forces such as landing crafts or inshore minelayers.

@Odysseus: I would prefer if you made a ship of your own so we can discuss and compare them. I have made quite alot of tactical thought behind the "Type 85". She is how I would have mad a corvette for the Swedish navy in the mid 80s - my version of the IRL Gothenburg class.

How would you do it? There will probably an ASW version of her as well with no aft gun, ASW torpedoes and mortars and a big sonar suite.

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