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I quite love the seaplane tender!!

Ballast, ballast and more ballast is the way to go. You'll need a lot of weight concentrated on the spot where the barbette used to be so the keel doesn't pop due to the external pressure.

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The latest series is really enjoyable. With the Dristighteten, I can appreciate that it was a one-off but if it is contemporary with Dreadnought I'm intrigued that the Swedish designers went straight to turrets with the secondaries, rather than sighting in casements. I'm probably answering my own question here, as the weight of the 210mm shell would make unassisted handling very difficult, so I'm seeing turrets with all the required hoists etc. Of course, the R.N. opted for 6-in secondaries in casements to ward off destroyers, but that was a later development anyway.

Forgive me if my observation is too obvious:
Wouldn't the construction of the various British and French pre- and semi-dreadnoughts with single and twin 9.2" and 6.4" or 7.6" (respectively) guns in turret/barbette provide enough example for the Swedish to follow? Several of these ships would already be in service and under construction by this time, making their existence common knowledge... and the theory behind their designs as well.

As the Swedish navy already has 210mm gun turrets in service (and thus the machinery necessary to work the guns in production) it seems to make sense that they would see these examples and make a similar evolutionary leap using the easiest solution at hand. The leap might appear greater for them- but most of the hard work was done by someone else... so they didn't need to duplicate it.

Swedish Navy IRL put secondary arnament in turrets as early as about 1900....

When I design my ships I want to keep the swedish touch from the IRL designs aswell. The IRL HSwMS Dristigheten used turrets instead of casemates early as 1900. The Fylgia had a lot of casemates but they where soon removed. Casemates has never really been liked by the RSwN.

This ship should be compared to the Radezky or Lord Nelson which both used turrets for secondaries. The 21cm gun is the IRL Bofors 21cm M/98 gun used by the IRL Dristigheten, Äran and Oscar II classes between 1900-1907.


The HMS MAnlighetens 21cm gun, and a 16cm visible on the port side underneath bridge wing

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Thank you for the correction; and the photograph showing the type of turret. I won't prolong the question re casements versus turrets for secondaries, this being something I could be studying seperately

Psilander: the RL HMS Dristigheten was fitted with casemates for her 6" battery. It was the following class, the Äran-class which introduced the turret design for the secondary battery, thus setting the pattern for future Swedish capital ship development.

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Ok..but IRL Sweden was very early to leave casemates...

Just a start, the Royal yacht HMY Serafimerordern

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Great stuff Psilander, some great additions, the Royal Yacht is a smart looking sailer.

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