Moderator: Community Manager
[Post Reply] [*]  Page 3 of 3  [ 30 posts ]  Go to page « 1 2 3
Author Message
bezobrazov
Post subject: Re: Venetian war galleyPosted: August 19th, 2011, 3:02 pm
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 3406
Joined: July 29th, 2010, 2:20 pm
I might, weren't it for my being at work! Google won't answer that query easily enough! :oops: :lol:

_________________
My Avatar:Петр Алексеевич Безобразов (Petr Alekseevich Bezobrazov), Вице-адмирал , царская ВМФ России(1845-1906) - I sign my drawings as Ari Saarinen


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
ALVAMA
Post subject: Re: Venetian war galleyPosted: August 19th, 2011, 3:46 pm
Lazer_one wrote:
It is a common wish to see dromones... I'll take care of galley waiting for your dromone.

BTW nobody is answering my question about when and where 31 galleys were transported...
Are they got pull over wheels to on land to save them from winter and wood rot. Or it being for display museum? Dogg state empire.


Top
[Quote]
Lazer_one
Post subject: Re: Venetian war galleyPosted: August 19th, 2011, 4:02 pm
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 1453
Joined: July 27th, 2010, 5:58 am
Location: Milan - Italy
Contact: Website
It was a war affair...

_________________
Lazer_One
[ img ]

Lazer_One's Worlist - Updated 2021

Documentation is always welcome here

Lazer_One's Blog


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
ALVAMA
Post subject: Re: Venetian war galleyPosted: August 19th, 2011, 4:28 pm
Lazer_one wrote:
It was a war affair...
To prefent capture or transport from a sea to another sea for secret attacks?


Top
[Quote]
WhyMe
Post subject: Re: Venetian war galleyPosted: August 19th, 2011, 5:00 pm
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 1616
Joined: November 12th, 2010, 4:27 pm
Location: California, USA
Contact: Website
Lazer_one wrote:
BTW nobody is answering my question about when and where 31 galleys were transported...
Venetians transporting their galleys to the Lake Garda during war against Milan in 1439.

_________________
Worklist: Portuguese Navy and Barnegat class seaplane tenders


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
Lazer_one
Post subject: Re: Venetian war galleyPosted: August 19th, 2011, 6:01 pm
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 1453
Joined: July 27th, 2010, 5:58 am
Location: Milan - Italy
Contact: Website
WhyMe wrote:
Lazer_one wrote:
BTW nobody is answering my question about when and where 31 galleys were transported...
Venetians transporting their galleys to the Lake Garda during war against Milan in 1439.
YES!
Venetians transported 31 galleys on Adige river, then by road till a small lake, pulled up throug a riverfall, and again by road down to Torbole...
In order to "brake" the galleys were not enough oxen and so were used emergency sail against the Ora wind...

As I said at the beginning I wrote a paper for the Italian Navy magazine discussing about "transportations" of ships on earth and illustrated with a series of FD drawings

[ img ]

_________________
Lazer_One
[ img ]

Lazer_One's Worlist - Updated 2021

Documentation is always welcome here

Lazer_One's Blog


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
bezobrazov
Post subject: Re: Venetian war galleyPosted: August 20th, 2011, 2:00 am
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 3406
Joined: July 29th, 2010, 2:20 pm
Lazer...I'm in total and complete awe about your eminent draughtmanship! I may let you decorate the pamphylii, dromones and chelandiones that I'm planning! Just plain outstanding!

_________________
My Avatar:Петр Алексеевич Безобразов (Petr Alekseevich Bezobrazov), Вице-адмирал , царская ВМФ России(1845-1906) - I sign my drawings as Ari Saarinen


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
Portsmouth Bill
Post subject: Re: Venetian war galleyPosted: August 20th, 2011, 3:15 pm
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 3220
Joined: August 16th, 2010, 7:45 am
Location: Cambridge United Kingdom
Yes! :D Here is an artist in the medium. And this topic interests me even more. I'm re-reading the superb 'House Of Niccolo' series by Dorothy Dunnett; where, in volume two it deals with the competition between Venice, Genoa, and Florence for the lucrative trade at Trebizond in the 15th century. Galleys are descibed, as well as the (then) more modern 'Round Ships' (Cogs?), and I would love to see the latter represented as well sometime.


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
bezobrazov
Post subject: Re: Venetian war galleyPosted: August 21st, 2011, 10:08 am
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 3406
Joined: July 29th, 2010, 2:20 pm
The round ships mentioned in your cited novels, PB, are not cogs, unless emanating from Northern Europe. The principal difference between a cog and a naus (to use the Greek term) was the way the hull was built: a cog is clinker-built, i e with each succeededing plank overlapping the preceeding, whereas the naus' built-pattern is carvel, or each plank set corner to corner. Also the Mediterranean round ships were usually much more round, actually in their form than the North European ones, in a quite literal sense. They, too, were chiefly rigged with the Lateen-sail, whereas the Northern ships carried the simple square rig.

_________________
My Avatar:Петр Алексеевич Безобразов (Petr Alekseevich Bezobrazov), Вице-адмирал , царская ВМФ России(1845-1906) - I sign my drawings as Ari Saarinen


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
Portsmouth Bill
Post subject: Re: Venetian war galleyPosted: August 21st, 2011, 1:04 pm
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 3220
Joined: August 16th, 2010, 7:45 am
Location: Cambridge United Kingdom
Thanks. The round ship mentioned was not clinker built, though it does originate from the Flemish ports in the story.


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
Display: Sort by: Direction:
[Post Reply]  Page 3 of 3  [ 30 posts ]  Return to “FD Scale Drawings” | Go to page « 1 2 3

Jump to: 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 11 guests


The team | Delete all board cookies | All times are UTC


Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited
[ GZIP: Off ]