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Sort of what if moment now. Critics of the FA-127 in the AF hierarchy (and staunch supporters of buying more FA-15s instead) Claim that their RCS-Reduced Grey Ladies can get the same job done as the FA-127 and after day one operations can carry a substantial amount more ordnance than the FA-127. AAE reacted with a private venture into a fighter-bomber based upon the FA-127. A demonstrator flew in mid 2011 for the AF. No decision has yet been made as to whether there will be any purchases of the new aircraft.



Atlantia Aerospace Engineering Project Nachzehrer:

General characteristics:

Crew: 2
Length: 77.5 ft (23.6 m)
Wingspan: 49.5 ft (15 m)
Height: 16.5 ft (5 m)
Wing area: 780 ft² (72.46 m²)
Empty weight: 47,289 lb (24,450 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 99,208 lb (45,000 kg)
Useful weight: 50000lbs (23,000lbs Fuel 27,000lbs Ordnance) 10433kg (8618kg Fuel 12247kg Ordnance)
Powerplant:
Prototype: 2 × General Electric F110-132 afterburning turbofans, 32,500 lb (144.6kN) with 3D Thrust Vectoring Control and fully implemented FADEC
Production: 2x GE/RR F-136-9000 Turbofans rated @ 45,000lbs (200.2kN) with FADEC and 3D TVC

Performance:

Maximum speed: Mach 1.7+ (1,290+ mph, 1,806+ km/h)
Supercruise with internal stores @ Mach 1.3
Ferry range: (1620nmi 3000km) unrefueled clean
Range with 4x external tanks @600 US Gallons / 2271L: 2025nmi (3750km)
Combat range: 840nmi (1574km) unrefueled clean
Range with 4x external tanks @600 US Gallons / 2271L: 1000nmi (1852km)
Max G-Load -3.0/+9.0g

Thrust to Weight Ratio:
0.8 with 100% fuel
1.1 with 50% fuel

Service ceiling: 65,000 ft (19,812 m)
Rate of climb: 50,000+ ft/min (254+ m/s)

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The design borrows heavily from that of the YF-23 and FA-127 sharing around 60% common systems with the latter. Unlike the FA-127 the Nachzehrer has an internal designation package instead of the Low-RCS pod arrangement on the FA-127. Two novel ideas from AAE for the project include a buddy tanker version with a removable fuel tank arrangement in the main weapons bay as well as external tanks. Another proposed version features a side by side cockpit arrangement as opposed to the current in-line one.

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Happy head scratching, Mark.

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Interesting wing design, see no problem with the stats (my plane knowledge is tiny) and I think it looks fantasitic

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There's no such thing as "nothing left to draw" If you can down 10 pints and draw, you're doing alright by my standards

The stats look fine but... I think the plane is ugly as hell, sorry. I just don't like that wing design. Not my plane though

Well the A10 looks ugly as hell, the truth is anything that is for war shouldn't be seen as pretty, but oh well!

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How to mentally pronounce my usernameRow-(as in a boat)Don-(as in the short form of Donald)Dough-(bread)
"Loitering on the High Seas" (Named after the good ship Rodondo)
There's no such thing as "nothing left to draw" If you can down 10 pints and draw, you're doing alright by my standards

I actually think the A-10 is quite good looking
But you make a good point. Is the plane functional? yes. Is being pretty going to make it a better aircraft? No. Does this therefore work? Yes.

I see several problems with this design. The Engines in the drawing are far too small to be F136s; nose is small, thus a small radar, thus short range, which for something like this isn't all that good; and your intakes sticks out on the bottom, which hurts the Stealthyness of the plane.

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Brum now mate

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Each to their own, but yeah that summed up what I was trying to put forwards, thanks

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How to mentally pronounce my usernameRow-(as in a boat)Don-(as in the short form of Donald)Dough-(bread)
"Loitering on the High Seas" (Named after the good ship Rodondo)
There's no such thing as "nothing left to draw" If you can down 10 pints and draw, you're doing alright by my standards

Bah. Re-design is in order then I guess...
I know, it's bleeding ridiculous. There is no reason anyone should be doing what they're doing.

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On topic I think that the aircraft is too low (not enough height between the top/undersides)

[Off Topic] I am a young person and I hate this being done in my name!!!! [/Off Topic]

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