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TimothyC
Post subject: Re: US Fast Combat Support Ships (T-AOE)Posted: July 11th, 2011, 10:09 pm
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Based on other views I've seen, I think the most you could justify is a recolor. We're seeing an aft quarter of the radar with that shot, not the side view we use in shipbucket.

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Post subject: Re: US Fast Combat Support Ships (T-AOE)Posted: July 11th, 2011, 10:19 pm
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TimothyC wrote:
Based on other views I've seen, I think the most you could justify is a recolor. We're seeing an aft quarter of the radar with that shot, not the side view we use in shipbucket.
Oh no, but it is that picture which show the most close ups. I've compared that with my others, but how many pics are you asking for?

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Post subject: Re: US Fast Combat Support Ships (T-AOE)Posted: July 12th, 2011, 8:12 pm
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Hm, gotta back up TimothyC here, not just in his role as Parts Forum Mod, but simply because he seems to be right. I really don't think we need a rework of that radar, the format of the current one seems to be good.

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Post subject: Re: US Fast Combat Support Ships (T-AOE)Posted: July 12th, 2011, 9:47 pm
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Hm... I have had big trouble here. I've discussed the issue with TimothyC in PMs and felt I were alone in the world. I've search as a mad man on the net, and there are really few pictures of MK95. Timothy wrote to me, that it was up to me to proof I'm right. The only solution I could find was to make a comparison to a picture. So here it is, and I've placed the parts sheets MK95 above so the comparison would be complete:
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Post subject: Re: US Fast Combat Support Ships (T-AOE)Posted: July 12th, 2011, 9:53 pm
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quick google let me find this:
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the old ones look more like that to me. recolour, ok. redetail, ok. but redraw? I don't think that is an good idea.

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Post subject: Re: US Fast Combat Support Ships (T-AOE)Posted: July 12th, 2011, 10:04 pm
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I can't get it? Even that it's obvious that USS Sacramento's MK95 doesn't looks exactly like them on Spruance and the size obvious is too small, you all urge me to use the old ones. The same people who told us if we use radars and guns from old parts sheets - which have been redrawn - to change to the new. Could it be a possibility, that the MK95 from the parts sheet isn't right?

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Post subject: Re: US Fast Combat Support Ships (T-AOE)Posted: July 12th, 2011, 10:07 pm
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just my 2 cents.... if you have something that is better then the original, the mods might consider placing it on the parts sheet. yours doesn't look like the real thing as it should be, so it isn't correct to use. come up with something better, and it might be allowed, but what you now have won't do. at least that's how I work with the parts sheet I do work on.

it is a good thing to redraw old parts IMHO.... when those need an update. I don't really think that is the case.

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Post subject: Re: US Fast Combat Support Ships (T-AOE)Posted: July 12th, 2011, 10:13 pm
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acelanceloet wrote:
just my 2 cents.... if you have something that is better then the original, the mods might consider placing it on the parts sheet. yours doesn't look like the real thing as it should be, so it isn't correct to use. come up with something better, and it might be allowed, but what you now have won't do. at least that's how I work with the parts sheet I do work on.

it is a good thing to redraw old parts IMHO.... when those need an update. I don't really think that is the case.
Ace would you please tell me what's wrong with my drawing. What is it you can see that I can't?

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Post subject: Re: US Fast Combat Support Ships (T-AOE)Posted: July 13th, 2011, 2:53 am
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Nipping this in the bud right now.

Tim is correct. What is drawn is still good.

This whole sh*t storm about the Mark 95s is unneccissary.

Kim you did not provide convincing enough evidence to require replacing the Mk 95. Therefor we will not be replacing it, period.

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Post subject: Re: US Fast Combat Support Ships (T-AOE)Posted: July 13th, 2011, 8:00 am
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Bardon my ignorance to USN systems, but are we sure the ship in question even features the Mk-95? Becouse of the pics KimWerner have provided shows (IMO) completely different system that (for example Acelancelot posted) is supposed to be the Mk-95? Where as the partsheets version tends to support the latter, what KimWerner has drawn looks quite obviously of the thing that seems to be placed on top of this ship in the pics he provided.

Of generally about the partsheets, Mind you guys that every time I drawn some Soviet ships, I tend to remake and remodel most of the parts to achieve exelence. Set your pride aside and rememeber that the bucket goes on. Before we have the new generation of parts sheets actually uploaded to the mainsite, we should try to maximese the perfection inside them and make every peace of ordanance look as accurate as possible with our style.

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