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Andorianus
Post subject: Re: Anghellis Class CruiserPosted: June 26th, 2011, 8:08 pm
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One more thing. So AK-130 isn't all the best, but can I still use it after all?

I was thinking of the gun being a proper realistic alternative to NS-grade lol-Iowa capitol ships, firing quite powerful rounds (I was even thinking of cluster or thermobaric rounds, but that might be a tad overdoing it) at a high rate of fire, thereby equaling several much larger and expensive guns. It might convince people to buy the Anghellis instead of battleships. That, and it could assist in the ship's air defence\anti missile defence, by the use of heavy AHEAD munitions.

The other alternative is sea-MLRS.

Also, I'll put a hitrole (or multiple ones) on my wish list for this ship. :D

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Post subject: Re: Anghellis Class CruiserPosted: June 26th, 2011, 8:18 pm
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well, I would favor the OTO over any other system for this ship. it is lightweight, but still packs a punch, it is suitable for shore bombarement and (limited) in anti-ship role, it can take out air targets...

of course there are other sytems which can do this as well. the best thing against nationstates battleships really is an good air defence system, so you can take out their shells :P really possible, ESSM and possibly sea sparrow should be able to do it.

ak 130 is an good system, without a doubt, but I (personally) would favor the OTO, which can do all the ak can do, only with an lower rate of fire.

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Post subject: Re: Anghellis Class CruiserPosted: June 26th, 2011, 8:25 pm
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Put simple, the kind of continuous fire suppression you're describing isn't necessary these days, since nobody build the kind of static defences they did back in WWII and before.
You can use the AK, but again personally I don't think it's worth all that extra weight. Modern fire support is all about several small "missions" were you put five or six round here, a couple of more there and a handful over there, rather than the continuous bombardment of old.

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Post subject: Re: Anghellis Class CruiserPosted: June 27th, 2011, 2:32 pm
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acelanceloet wrote:
of course there are other sytems which can do this as well. the best thing against nationstates battleships really is an good air defence system, so you can take out their shells :P really possible, ESSM and possibly sea sparrow should be able to do it.
That's really possible? I mean, I knew you could indeed take down artillery shells with CIWS, but it really is possible like in the Anime you linked on the other thread?

Anyways, when fighting NSbattleships they usally fire missiles instead of guns.
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Put simple, the kind of continuous fire suppression you're describing isn't necessary these days, since nobody build the kind of static defences they did back in WWII and before.
That does explain a lot. And it gives me a little time to reconsider my thoughts. I mean, in NS a WWIII is just around the corner, it always is. So maybe I will need the rapid fire ability some now and then.

I think I have made my decision. I choose the AK-130.

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Post subject: Re: Anghellis Class CruiserPosted: June 30th, 2011, 5:47 pm
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I tried, and tried, and kept trying... and nope. Top down views are very difficult to do realistically. Especially since bows need to be pointy yet curved... or something in that general direction. This stuff really freaked me out.
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So I decided it would be better to ask here if there's an easy way to do it. Or at least what guidelines in width I should take.

(Also, slightly off-topic, but I heard Mitch got banned. Is there any way to contact him after he's banned? I want to ask him something regarding his 50. stealth mount.)

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Post subject: Re: Anghellis Class CruiserPosted: July 1st, 2011, 5:58 am
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Maybe the hull could be a bit thinner, maybe 25m tops?

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Post subject: Re: Anghellis Class CruiserPosted: July 1st, 2011, 1:20 pm
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The hull currently is 25 meters, if my calculations are correct. Seems a tad wide though, would 18 meters or something be good?

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Post subject: Re: Anghellis Class CruiserPosted: July 1st, 2011, 1:24 pm
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15-19 would be perfect for an fast ship, 19-21 for an 'broad' ship, IMO (in this case). if you do around 19 meters, you can use the hull shape of the LCF.

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Post subject: Re: Anghellis Class CruiserPosted: July 1st, 2011, 1:30 pm
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acelanceloet wrote:
15-19 would be perfect for an fast ship, 19-21 for an 'broad' ship, IMO (in this case). if you do around 19 meters, you can use the hull shape of the LCF.
(Dutch LCF or American LCF?)

Point taken. I suppose I want a wide hull yet not sacrifice too much speed, so around 19 meters seems perfect. Nearly all equipment here is centralized on the midline of the ship so I guess it doesn't has to be too wide. (Except maybe for the reactor or the hangar.)

Also, is my new stealth AK-130 mount okay? Seems pretty nice to me.

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Post subject: Re: Anghellis Class CruiserPosted: July 1st, 2011, 1:36 pm
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I don't like it, but it could work, I guess.
the dutch of course, the US has lcS

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